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02 U.S., JOVIALISTE & NOSTRADAMUS: THE WORD.


 I SUPPOSE THE WORD "JOVIALISTE" MEANS "UNITED STATES" FOR REFER TO ORIGIN OF THE SETTLEMENT OF AMERICA AND THE DAY OF THANKSGIVING (the people of thursday).


 ----Citizens of United States give thanks to God on Thursday-----


LORD´S DAY?  SO, WHAT IS THE DAY OF GOD?
 + For most Christians, Sunday is observed as a day for worship of God and rest, due to the belief that it is Lord's Day, the day of Christ's resurrection. In ancient Rome to this day was called dies solis (day of sun).

 + For both Jews and the Seventh-day Adventist, the seventh day of the week, known as Shabbat (or Sabbath for SDA), stretches from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday and is the day of rest. Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches distinguish between Saturday (Sabbath) and the Lord's Day (Sunday). Quakers traditionally refer to Saturday as "Seventh Day", eschewing the "pagan" origin of the name. Sabbatum Bible comes from the Latin, the Greek σάββατον (sabbaton), the Hebrew יום השבת (Sabbath), 'rest', 'rest day', derived from the verb Shabath 'cease', 'rest', 'save the Saturday ', and east of the Akkadian šabattum, rest.


 Its Latin name dies Saturni ("Saturn's Day") entered into Old English as Saeternesdaeg. Saturday was named no later than the 2nd century for the planet Saturn, which controlled the first hour of that day according to Vettius Valens.

+  In Islam, Friday corresponds to Sunday in Christianity and Saturday in Judaism, as a holy day. Friday observance includes attendance at a mosque for congregation prayer or Salat AlJumu'ah. As well as a day of rest it is considered a day of peace and mercy - even condemning a slave is forbidden on a Friday under Muslim law. 

The name Friday comes from the Old English Frīġedæġ, meaning the "day of Frige", a result of an old convention equivocating the Old English goddess Frige with the Roman goddess Venus (the goddess of beauty and love in Roman mythology) , with whom the day is associated in many different cultures. In French "Vendredi" (Friday) comes from the Latin dies Veneris, "day of Venus'.

+ Thursday is the fourth day of the week. The name "Thursday" comes from the Latin Jovis dies, or "day of Jupiter '. And then WHO gives thanks to God on Thursday, the day of Jupiter?
 Jupiter (Latin Iuppiter), also called Jove (Iovis), is the chief god of Roman mythology, the father of gods and men (pater et deorum hominum).

  ----Citizens of United States give thanks to God on Thursday-----



 Thanksgiving Day in UnitedStates                                                                  http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/thanksgiving-day

+ Thanksgiving Day in the United States is a holiday on the fourth Thursday of November. George Washington, the first president of the United States, proclaimed the first national Thanksgiving Day in 1789.

+ Thanksgiving Day has been an annual holiday in the United States since 1863. Not everyone sees Thanksgiving Day as a cause for celebration. Each year since 1970, a group of Native Americans and their supporters have staged a protest for a National Day of Mourning at Plymouth Rock in Plymouth, Massachusetts on Thanksgiving Day. American Indian Heritage Day is also observed at this time of the year.

+ While initially, the Plymouth colony did not have enough food to feed half of the 102 colonists, the Wampanoag Native Americans helped the Pilgrims by providing seeds and teaching them to fish. The practice of holding an annual harvest festival like this did not become a regular affair in New England until the late 1660s

http://www.drunkenship.com/http://www.drunkenship.com/wp-content/uploads/THANKSGIVING-or_web.jpg
Maybe I have not elected the most appropriate picture, but .....http://www.drunkenship.com/2011/11/21/thanks_giving/
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+ The dates of Thanksgiving in the era of the Founding Fathers until the time of Lincoln had been decided by each state on various dates. The first Thanksgiving celebrated on the same date by all states was in 1863 by presidential proclamation. The final Thursday in November had become the customary date of Thanksgiving in most U.S. states by the beginning of the 19th century. And so, in an effort by President Abraham Lincoln (influenced by the campaigning of author Sarah Josepha Hale who wrote letters to politicians for around 40 years trying to make it an official holiday), to foster a sense of American unity between the Northern and Southern states, proclaimed the date to be the final Thursday in November.

 + It was not until December 26, 1941, that the unified date changed to the fourth Thursday (and not always final) in November—this time by federal legislation. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, after two years earlier offering his own proclamation to move the date earlier, with the reason of giving the country an economic boost, agreed to sign a bill into law with Congress, making Thanksgiving a national holiday on the fourth Thursday in November.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving
http://m24digital.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/accion-de-gracias-pic.jpg
http://m24digital.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/accion-de-gracias-pic.jpg The First Thanksgiving at Plymouth By Jennie A. Brownscombe (1914)


 This is what Nostradamus wrote about the "Jovialiste"

 Nostradamus refers repeatedly to "Jeudy people" who, after studying the quatrains, seems to be closer to the "Jovialistes" and jovial people.

AND 20 YEARS AGO, BUSH ATTACKS IRAQ FOR FREE KUWAIT, I SEE:
from EPISTLE TO HENRY SECOND
 "Et ne seront du tout leurs assaillemens vains, & au lieu que iadis fut l'habitation d'Abraham, sera assaillie par personnes qui auront en veneration les Iouialistes."

 "And will any of their assaillemens vain, and instead that formerly was the room (1) of Abraham  (where Abraham was born) will be assaulted by persons who have in the veneration Iouialistes.. "

Note:
+ (1) Room or Habitation, origin:late 14c., "act or fact of dwelling;" also "place of lodging, abode," from O.Fr. habitacion, abitacion "act of dwelling" (12c.) or directly from L. habitationem (nom. habitatio) "act of dwelling," noun of action from pp. stem of habitare (see habitat).

+ Habitat:1762, as a technical term in Latin texts on English flora and fauna, lit. "it inhabits," third person singular present indicative of habitare "to live, dwell," frequentative of habere "to have, to hold, possess" (see habit). General sense of "dwelling place" is first attested 1854.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=habitation&allowed_in_frame=0


Comment
+ According to the Bible, Abraham must have been born in Ur of the Chaldees. Believed to have been at the mouth of the Euphrates, according to some authors. He died and was buried in Hebron with his wife and the rest of his family (Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Rebecca and Leah).

+ The remains of Ur ruins form a hill 12 meters above sea level in the middle of the desert of Iraq, about 24 km southwest of Nasiriyah. The ruins were called by local people al-Muqayyar Tell (mound of pitch).

+ So if "Jovialiste" means United States and "Ur" means Iraq, Nostradamus is speaking of the North American-led alliance to invade Iraq. .....and more one time.

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 THE BEGINNING

Century I - Quatrain 50. Old French.
De l´aquatique triplicité naistra,
D´un qui fera le Ieudy pour sa feste;
Son bruit, loz, regne, sa puissance croistre,
Par terre & mer aux Orients tempeste.


Century I - Quatrain 50. Possible English traslation.
Triplicity will be born of water,
On who will Ieudy as his holiday;
His renown, praise, rule and power begin to grow
By land and sea tempest to Easts.

+ Comment:
Do you can remember what three seas or oceans surrounding America?
My solution is here:
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/01-usa-and-nostradamus-to-east.html

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ALLIANCE AGAINST THE COLD


Century VII - Quatrain 71. Old French.
La terre & l'air geleront si grand eau,
Lors qu'on viendra pour ieudy venerer :
Ce qui sera iamais ne fut si beau,
Des quatre parts le viendront honorer.


Century VII - Quatrain 71. Possible English traslation.
The earth and air will freeze a very great sea,
When they will come to venerate Thursday:
Which will be never was so beautiful,
From the four parts will come to honor.

+ Comment:
 Do you guys remember what was called the Cold War?
 what did United States at that time helping their allies?
"Great  water or sea" ...  Do you remember the NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization)?
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TOO LATE, INGRATITUDE.


Century VII - Quatrain 73. Old French.
Le temps present auecques le passé,
Sera iugé par grand Iouialiste :
Le monde tard Luy sera lassé,
Et desloyal par le clergé iuriste.


Century VII - Quatrain 73. Possible English traslation.
The present time in the past also,
Will be judged by the great Jovialist:
The world too late will be tired of him,
And unfair the clergy jurist.

+ Comment:
Do you remember that group of lawyers refused to comply with requests from the United States? And where and when?
Possible solution: The Taliban Clerics´ statement on Bin Laden.
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/20/afghanistan.september115

+ The full explanation is on this link:
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/03-us-afganistan-nostradamus-verdict.html
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DEFEAT IN GREECE AND DESPERATE ESCAPE


Almanach 1566 - presage CXXIX (novembre). Old French.
L'ennemy tant à craindre retirer en Thracie
Laissant cris hurlemens, & pille desolée:
Cesser bruit mer & terre, religion Murtie:
Iouiaux unis en route toute secte affolée.


Almanac 1566 - presage CXXIX (november). Possible English traslation.
The enemy to be feared as withdraw Thracie
Leaving roaring cries, & pillage desolated:
Stop Noise sea and land, religion dying:
Jovials united in the escape, all sects distraught .

+ Comment:
+ This is evident, Thrace is part of Greece. Nostradamus tells the story of a military defeat in Greece and the flight of the alliance members "Jovialiste" or NATO. Turkey will return to being the owner of Greece (and perhaps of the Balkans).

Thrace: Blue area.
+ Thrace (in Greek Θράκη, Thraki, Turkish: Trakya, Bulgarian: Тракия, Trakija) is a region of southeastern Europe in the Balkan peninsula, the northern Aegean Sea, located in Bulgaria, Greece and European Turkey.  + Look at the map.



+But the ancient Greeks employed the term "Thrace" to refer to all of the territory which lay north of Thessaly inhabited by the Thracians, a region which "had no definite boundaries" and to which other regions (like Macedonia and even Scythia) were added.




+ Greece's fate depends on victory in the U.S. and its allies, but so Greece will return to being Turkish territory.
Greek flag.
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GREAT HONOR? AND RIOTS


Almanach 1560 - presage LII (julliet). Old French.
Longue crinite leser le Gouuerneur.
Faim, fièure ardante, feu & de sang fumée,
A tous estats Iouiaux grand honneur,
    Sedition par Razes allumée.


Almanac 1560 - presage LII (july). Possible English traslation.
Long-bearded injure the Governor,
Hunger, burning fever, fire and smoke of blood,
To all estats Jovials great honor,
Sedition by Razes on.

+ Comment 
I would argue that "Jovialistes" and its allies will be greatly affected by the impact of a comet, so weak so-called BE "Razes" taken advantage of it.  
 - The "Razes" appear in other quatrains of Nostradamus. This is a puzzle,is another puzzle that soon I will show.

- Razes:  http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/raze
 a) to demolish (a town, buildings, etc.) completely; level (esp. in the phrase raze to the ground) 
b)  to delete; erase 
 c) Archaic: To Graze, from Old French "raser" from Latin "radere" to scrape

 - Who will be the "razes" or shaved?
 In times of Nostradamus had only one type of people who cut their hair, something called to tonsure: 
 http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/SODimages5/235_MonkGivenTonsure.jpg
 http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/tonsured.htm


Tonsure is the traditional practice of Christian churches of cutting or shaving the hair from the scalp (while leaving some parts uncut) of clerics, monastics, and, in the Eastern Orthodox Church, all baptized members. Tonsure, usually qualified by the name of the religion concerned, is now sometimes used more generally for such cutting or shaving for monks, devotees, or mystics of other religions as a symbol of their renunciation of worldly fashion and esteem, e.g., by Buddhist novices and monks, and some Hindu streams.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsure

A Hindu boy's hair tonsured with a sikha reminder during Upanayana (sacred thread ceremony).Wikipedia.
  Opponents of the tonsure should not miss her in the ministers of the Church, when the idolaters used it. The Egyptian priests cut their hair, the Assyrians offered to their false gods, which also accustomed the Romans in his first shave. The abancios were cut only the hair on the back of the head, and on the contrary, the machios and anasios, whose figure was not far from the semicircular used Simon Magus, according to Bede, who noted noticed this practice in some Scots; finally, the Prophet Habakkuk testifies the tonsure of the priests of Babylon, but as God forbid the Jews gentils rites, in this sense be understood sacred texts alleged by heretics against the ecclesiastical tonsure.


Islam: It is customary (but not required) for men who complete the hajj to shave their heads as a reminder that they have been washed clean of all prior sins. Women (and some men) cut only a lock of hair rather than shaving the entire head. The word tonsure is used less often to describe these Islamic practices.



http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/SODimages5/235_MonkGivenTonsure.jpg
A new monk receives the tonsure upon entering the monastery
TONSURE
*Meaning: Having a bald spot either shaved or natural
*Context example: tonsured monks
*Similar: hairless (having no hair or fur), like Skin-heads.


Comment
The danger for the United States and the world is in the tonsured, in the religious fanatics (perhaps arab Muslim or Persian from Iran? ... or both: The men of god (Ayatollah)

Remember 1: Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, was the most popular ayatollah, who was actually nstrumental in spreading the importance of the word ayatollah during the 1979 Iranian revolution.
Hamas, Ayatollah Khomeini & Ayatollah Khamenei


  The ayatollah is a high ranking religious authority for the Shiite branch of Islam. He is highly revered and respected as the most learned man of the community. The word ayatollah means "man of God." His decisions are to be accepted as binding by his followers and the Shiite community. The person who carries the title of ayatollah is deemed to be a specialist in Islamic studies, philosophy, ethics and jurisprudence.
http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=ayatollah
http://www.blurtit.com/q617214.html


Remember 2: Al Qaeda is also a religious organization, they are not like the Iranian Shia but religion is its reason for being.  "The Base" and alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida) is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden at some point between August 1988 and late 1989, with its origins being traceable to the Soviet War in Afghanistan. It operates as a network comprising both a multinational, stateless army and a radical Sunni Muslim movement calling for global Jihad and a strict interpretation of sharia law. It has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United Nations Security Council, NATO, the European Union, the United Kingdom, the United States, and various other countries (see below). Al-Qaeda has carried out several attacks on Christian churches, and other targets it considers kafir.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda


 Al Qaeda gaining 'operational capability' despite core losses, report shows:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/31/al-qaeda-gaining-operational-capability-despite-core-losses-report-shows/?test=latestnews

From FOX news.com 31/7/2012.
And Now: See "Muslim Brotherhood Realities New and Old" by Steven Emerson. http://www.steveemerson.com/10987/muslim-brotherhood-realities-new-and-old
"The votes still aren't fully counted in Egypt, but the Obama administration has seen enough to reverse long-standing and well-rooted policies to shun the theocratic, global Caliphate-minded Muslim Brotherhood, whose philosophy spawned terrorist movements from Hamas to al-Qaida."
+ More in the link mentioned previously.



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 ALL THE HISTORY OF A WAR. (and finally, peace)

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a -ISRAEL, USA & ..... IN DANGER ----(addenda Nov 17, 2012)
(and also France and Italy will suffer)

 
Century 1- quatrain 51. Old French:
Chef d'Aries, Jupiter & Saturne,
Dieu éternel quelles mutations !
Puis par long siecle son maling temps retourne
Gaule et Italie, quelles esmotions?
 

Century 1 - quatrain 51. Possible English Traslation
Leader of Aries, Jupiter and Saturn
Eternal God what changes!
Then a long century bad times will return
Gaul and Italy, what emotions?

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b -AND PEACE, FINALLY

Sextille 49. Old French. 
Venus & Sol, Iupiter & Mercure
Augmenteront le genre de nature,
Grande alliance en France se fera,
Et du Midy la sangsnë de mesme,
Le feu esteint par ce remede extreme
En terre ferme Oliuier plantera.


Sixian 49. Possible English Traslation
Venus & Sol, Jupiter & Mercury
Increase the kind of nature,
Grand Alliance will be in France,
And from the South of the same blood,
The fire put out by this extreme remedy
Olive tree planted in the ground firmly



Comment
+ Forget astrology, remember Mythology.
- Jupiter is  United States and Venus is Muslims for their holy day (Friday is the day , in Roman mythology, of the goddess Venus). Sol is Power and Mercury ( In Roman mythology Mercury is the god of commerce,travel and thievery. Also known is Mercury as Hermes, the messenger of the Gods in Greek mythology).

+ My opinion is that Nostradamus wanted to say that Muslims came to power that the U.S. will lose (in his absence, by robbery or a bad deal). There will be a war and France create a new military alliance and will get a total victory, and long-term peace (the olive tree planted firmly in the ground).
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HOW?

Century IV - Quatrain 33. Old French:
Jupiter joinct plus Venus qu'à la Lune,
Apparoissant de plenitude blanche:

Venus cachée souz la blancheur Neptune
De Mars frappée par la gravée branche.


 Century IV - Quatrain 33. possible English Traslation:
Jupiter joined more to Venus than to the Moon,
appearing in a white fullness.
Venus hidden under the whiteness of Neptune
struck by Mars by the engraved wand. 


Comment
+ Forget astrology, remember Mythology.
- Venus is the goddess of love and Mars is the god of war, Neptune is the god of the sea and the moon represent Muslims; and Jupiter is U.S.A.
- I guess that means  when U.S. bet for peace and love (Obama Nobel Peace Prize) , Muslims reach their maximum power, U.S. military fleet will be destroyed by war.
 

Solving Nostradamus puzzle

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 ADDENDA

ETYMOLOGY OF THE WORD "JOVIALISTE" or JOVIALITY / JOVIALIST
 http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=joviality&allowed_in_frame=0
 http://www.wordnik.com/words/jovialist


JOVIALIST
Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia: n. A person of jovial character or disposition.
GNU Webster's 1913:  n. One who lives a jovial life.


 JOVIALITY
 1620s, from Fr. jovialite, from jovial (see jovial).


JOVIAL
1580s, "under the influence of the planet Jupiter," from M.Fr. jovial (16c.), from It. joviale, lit. "pertaining to Jupiter," and directly from L. Iovialis "of Jupiter," from Iovius (used as gen. of Iuppiter) "Jupiter," Roman god of the sky (see Jove). The meaning "good-humored, merry," is from astrological belief that those born under the sign of the planet Jupiter are of such dispositions. Related: Jovially.

http://rlv.zcache.com/jupiter_poster-r0f7a3242c38c40d3b0d7923785109736_w2q_400.jpg
http://www.zazzle.es/jupiter_poster-228269259469937760


 JOVE
 Roman god of the bright sky, late 14c., from L. Iovis, from PIE *dyeu- "to shine," with derivatives referring to the sky, heavens, a god (see diurnal, and cf. Zeus). In classical Latin, the compound Iuppiter replaced Old L. Iovis as the god's name.


 ZEUS
 Supreme god of the ancient Greeks, 1706, from Gk., from PIE *dewos- "god" (cf. L. deus "god," O. Pers. daiva- "demon, evil god," O.C.S. deivai, Skt. deva-), from root *dyeu- "to gleam, to shine;" also the root of words for "sky" and "day" (see diurnal). The god-sense is originally "shining," but "whether as originally sun-god or as lightener" is not now clear.


DIURNAL
 Late 14c., from L.L. diurnalis "daily," from L. dies "day" + -urnus, an adjectival suffix denoting time (cf. hibernus "wintery"). Dies "day" is from PIE root *dyeu- (cf. Skt. diva "by day," Welsh diw, Bret. deiz "day;" Arm. tiw; Lith. diena; O.C.S. dini, Pol. dzień, Rus. den), lit. "to shine" (cf. Gk. delos "clear;" L. deus, Skt. deva "god," lit. "shining one;" Avestan dava- "spirit, demon;" Lith. devas, O.N. tivar "gods;" O.E. Tig, gen. Tiwes, see Tuesday).


 THURSDAY
 O.E. Þurresdæg, perhaps a contraction (influenced by O.N. Þorsdagr) of Þunresdæg, lit. "Thor's day," from Þunre, gen. of Þunor "Thor" (see Thor); from P.Gmc. *thonaras daga- (cf. O.Fris. thunresdei, M.Du. donresdach, Du. donderdag, O.H.G. Donares tag, Ger. Donnerstag "Thursday"), a loan-translation of L. Jovis dies "day of Jupiter," identified with the Gmc. Thor (cf. It. giovedi, O.Fr. juesdi, Fr. jeudi, Sp. jueves), itself a loan-translation of Gk. dios hemera "the day of Zeus."


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ADDENDA, January 9. 2013
 
SAGA U.S. & :

6 THIRD VISION OF GEORGE WASHINGTON
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2013/01/06-us-third-vision-of-george-washington.html
 

5 ISRAEL, THE ODD COUPLE
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/04-us-israel-nostradamus.html

4 HOPI, THE WAR & THE COMET.
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/11/03-us-hopi-prophecy-about-comet-that.html

3 AFGANISTAN & THE VERDICT
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/03-us-afganistan-nostradamus-verdict.html

2 JOVIALISTE = U S A


1 U S A, BIRTH & GO ORIENT
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/01-usa-and-nostradamus-to-east.html
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Source about Nostradamus:
http://4umi.com/nostradamus/
http://www.nostradamusquatrains.com/index.html


OBAMA TO JERUSALEM.
 
Bye from Spain.
JSP.


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