01 ROME & ITALY: NOSTRADAMUS, ST MALACHY, & ST JOHN BOSCO

The tragic fate of Rome(& Italy), Part One,
The Boscos´ 4 warnings.



THE  PROPHETS  WARNING ROME & ITALY

NOSTRADAMUS WROTE ABOUT ROME

Century X - Quatrain 65. Old French:
O vaste Rome ta ruyne s'approche,
Non de tes murs, de ton sang & substance:
L'aspre par lettres fera si horrible coche,
Fer poinctu mis à tous iusques au manche.

Century X - Quatrain 65. Possible English Traslation:
O vast Rome, thy ruin approaches,
Not of thy walls, of thy blood and substance:
The one harsh in letters will make a very horrible notch,
Pointed steel driven into all up to the hilt.

COMMENT
+ It is obvious, but it appears that the ruination of the country is not only by force but by their decline and disability. A physical and moral decadence of their leaders and citizens. 
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 ST JOHN BOSCO s DREAM: 

4 WARNINGS TO ROME (AND ITALY)

On the vigil of the Epiphany of this year, 1870..... (1)

"But you, O Italy, land of blessings, who has plunged you into desolation? Not your enemies, but your own friends. Do you not hear your children begging for the bread of faith, unable to find one to break it for them? What shall I do? I shall strike the shepherds and scatter the sheep so that those who sit upon the chair of Moses may seek better pastures and their flock may gently listen and be fed.

"But My hand shall be heavy upon both flock and shepherds. Famine, plague, and war shall cause mothers to mourn the blood of their sons and husbands shed on foreign soil.

"What shall befall you, ungrateful, effeminate, proud Rome? You have reached a point when you seek and admire nought in your sovereign but luxury, forgetting that both your glory and his lies on Golgotha. Now he is old, frail, defenseless, and dispossessed.  Nevertheless, though captive, his words cause the whole world to tremble.

"O Rome! Four times shall I come to you!
1 +The first time I shall smite your regions and its people.
2 +The second time I shall bring slaughter and destruction to your very gates. Should not that make you open your eyes?
3 +A third time shall I come, and I will demolish your defenses and defenders. At My Father's command, terror, dismay, and desolation will reign."

4+ "My wise followers flee  but My law is still trod underfoot. Therefore, I shall come a fourth time. Woe to you if My law again shall go unheeded. There shall be defections among both learned and ignorant.  Your blood and that of your children shall wipe out your transgressions.

"War, plague, and famine are the scourges to smite human pride and malice. Where are your magnificent villas and palaces, you people of wealth? They have become the litter of squares and streets!


"And you priests, why are you not prostrate between the vestibule and the altar, weeping and praying that the scourge may cease? Why do you not take up the shield of faith and preach My Word from the rooftops, in the houses, streets, and squares, and even in inaccessible places? Do you not know that this is the terrible two-edged sword which smites My enemies and placates the wrath of God and man?

"These things shall inexorably come to pass, all in succession.

"Things follow too slowly upon each other, but the great Queen of Heaven is at hand; the Lord's power is Hers. Like mist She shall scatter Her enemies. She shall vest the Venerable Old Man with all his former garments.

"There shall yet come a violent hurricane. Iniquity is at an end, sin shall cease, and before two full moons shall have shone in the month of flowers, the rainbow of peace shall appear on the earth.

"The great Minister shall see the Bride of his King clothed in glory.

"Throughout the world a sun so bright shall shine as was never seen since the flames of the Cenacle until today, nor shall it be seen again until the end of time."

Source
http://www.franciscan-archive.org/bosco/opera/bosco.html


INFO

1+ EPIPHANY
January 5, 1870 A.D.. A copy of this prophecy was sent to Rome on February 12, 1870, as testified to by the Civiltá Cattolica, Vol. VI, Series 8, 1872, pp. 299 and 303. Father Joachim Berto copied this prophecy at Don Bosco request a few weeks after Epiphany. His own comments on its meaning however do not date to this period (cf. fn. regarding "Pantheon.")

+ I have removed the comments that were included in the text, and I've left the original text.

+ THE 4 WARNINGS ARE:

1rst- END OF THE PAPAL STATE (September 1870)
Almost nine months after the prophetic dream of St. John Bosco about Rome.

From http://www.reformation.org/garibaldi.html

The Papal State(s), the State(s) of the Church, the Pontifical States, the Ecclesiastical States, or the Roman States  were among the major historical states of Italy from roughly the 6th century until the Italian peninsula was unified in 1861 by the Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia (after which the Papal States, in less territorially extensive form, continued to exist until SEPTEMBER 1870).
 
The Papal States comprised territories under direct sovereign rule of the papacy, and at its height it covered most of the modern Italian regions of Romagna, Marche, Umbria and Lazio. This governing power is commonly called the temporal power of the Pope, as opposed to his ecclesiastical primacy.Most of the Papal States were included in the united Kingdom of Italy, proclaimed in 1861, but Rome was excluded. Attempts by the military leader Giuseppe Garibaldi to capture the city in 1862 and 1867 were unsuccessful, but the withdrawal of the French garrison supporting Pope Pius IX allowed Italian troops to enter Rome on Sept. 20, 1870. In all, 49 Italian soldiers and 19 papal troops were killed in the so-called “breach of Porta Pia” (Porta Pia being one of the city’s old gates). The pope’s temporal power was lost.

The plural Papal States is usually preferred; the singular Papal State (equally correct since it was not a mere personal union) tends to be used (normally with lower-case letters) for the modern State of Vatican City, an enclave within Italy's national capital, Rome. The Vatican City was founded in 1929, again allowing the Holy See the political benefits of territorial sovereignty.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_States
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/508807/Rome/23930/Capital-of-a-united-Italy


2nd- FASCIST STATE OF ITALY & WW 2 (1922-1945)
+ March on Rome, the insurrection by which Benito Mussolini came to power in Italy in late October 1922. The March marked the beginning of fascist rule and meant the doom of the preceding parliamentary regimes of socialists and liberals.

+Widespread social discontent, aggravated by middle-class fear of a socialist revolution and by disappointment over Italy’s meagre gains from the peace settlement after World War I, created an atmosphere favourable for Mussolini’s rise to power. Mussolini agreed with the Pope (The Lateran Treaty 1929) and was allied with Hitler. 

Mussolini and Cardinal Gasparri to the signing of the Lateran Treaty,  "Atlante storico sul fascismo", Demetra, pag. 139
Source: http://www.emscuola.org/dofras/ap5c/metodo.htm

+Germans and the Allies conquered the city but there was no struggle to dominate Rome. 

+Rome was declared an open city.

Source
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/508871/March-on-Rome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty

3rd-  BLOODY FUTURE 1
Rome will be conquered by force and will be a very destructive and bloody struggle.

4r-  BLOODY FUTURE 2
TOTAL DESTRUCTION AND PAPAL POWER RESTORATION 


COMMENT 
+ Similar to the prophecy of Nostradamus, right?

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 ST. MALACHY WROTE
 
+ The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, is a list of 112 short phrases in Latin.

PETRUS ROMANUS.  Is the last shepherd?

FINAL SENTENCE OR  NUMBER 112

112-  In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex tremêdus judicabit populum suum. Finis.

112-  In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.

COMMENT

 + I suppose for some religious war or religious persecution, the pope was obliged to do their work outside of Rome (Italy). Rome will be held by horde of evil or any foreigner army and governed by someone very evil. The city will be destroyed and that's the end of the list of popes.

Sources:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

 http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

 http://www.theworkofgod.org/Pope/saint_malachy_prophecies.htm

Read more:
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/04-kill-pope-part-one-nostradamus-wrote.html
 

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GENERAL COMMENT
+ And this is just the beginning, Nostradamus wrote much more about Rome, Italy and the Pope and his friend, the great King. 

+ And other prophets also prophesied about this.

+This is the beginning of a series.  
The escape and death of Pope three leagues from the Rhone and is written:
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/04-kill-pope-3-nostradamus-wrote.html

END PART ONE.

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( Update  3/17/2014 ) 
 The Next chapter :
02 ROME & ITALY: THE ALBANIANS TO CONQUER ROME (from Albania)
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2013/02/02-rome-italy-albanians-to-conquer-rome.html
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Common sources:

Wikipedia 
http://www.britannica.com/
http://www.theoi.com/
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php
 
Google Translate
 
http://www.nostradamusquatrains.com/index.html
http://4umi.com/nostradamus/
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REMEMBER: Not the most impressive walls served to protect its residents

It's a puzzle, a giant puzzle.

And I also hope Obama visit Jerusalem again at Easter.

HAPPY NEW YEAR  2012+1

JSP.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc9iCEZeb2M

NOSTRADAMUS & THE EGYPTIAN CONSTITUTION (& TURKEY)

+Evil changes in Turkey and Egypt
+The leader of Egypt will change everything.
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( Part one see: http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/egypt-nostradamus-herald-scream.html )

RADICAL CHANGES IN EGYPT & TURKEY
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01 NOSTRADAMUS WROTE:

About his Constitution

Century 1 - Quatrain 40. Old French.
La trombe fausse dissimulant folie,
Fera Bisance(1) un changement de loix,
Hystra d'Égypte, qui veut que l'on deslie
Edict changeant monnoyes & aloys.

Century 1 - Quatrain 40. possible English Traslation:
The false whirlwind dissimulating his madness
will cause Byzantium(1) to change its laws.
From Egypt there will go forth a man who wants to break
Edict changing money and values (quality, rank or grade) .

MURSI (Egypt) & ERDOGAN (Turkey) They are changing the laws and values ​​of their countries. Abderahman Salaheldin, Egyptian Ambassador in Ankara, told Hurriyet Daily News: "I think when our two countries are together and speak the same words, not only our region but the world will listen. Not only our people constitute half Across the Middle East, but represent moderation, in terms of political and religious moderation, and strive for democracy "

 INFO:
1+BYZANTIUM
From ancient Greek colony, was refounded by Emperor Constantine the Great in 330, and renamed Constantinople, was the capital and center of classical culture of the Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantine Empire. Corresponds to the present Turkish city of Istanbul.
Source;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantium

TURKEY CHANGE:
+ ERDOGAN has been widely considered to be the most influential Turkish leader of the Republican age after Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. Under his premiership, the country continued to grow economically and consolidate its position as a regional power with global ambitions. His foreign policy vision is claimed to rest on the Neo-Ottomanism, the policy according to which, Turkey should maintain and increase its presence in the lands formerly ruled by the Turkish empire.

 Erdoğan had made his first official visit to Egypt on 12 September 2011, accompanied by six ministers and 200 businessmen. This visit was considered a diplomatic success. It was made very soon after Turkey had ejected Israeli ambassadors, cut all diplomatic and bilateral military agreements. because Israel has refused to apologize for the Gaza flotilla attack which killed eight Turkish and one Turco-American aboard a convoy headed to Gaza. and within the last 15 years and after Egypt Revolution of 2011, this is the first visit by a Prime Minister of Turkey.
SOURCE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan


BUT NOW  Is Kemal Atatürk legacy Dead? Erdogan Islamism Replaces Kemalism:
 ASLI AYDINTASBAS wrote:

" Under Mustafa Kemal’s leadership, the young republic made a clean break from its Ottoman past nearly nine decades ago, ditching the caliphate for a secular regime and turning away from the empire’s former Arab territories in favor of an anti-clerical, pro-Western vision that became known as Kemalism. He pushed for women’s suffrage, decreed the alphabet’s conversion from Arabic to Latin overnight, established parliamentary government, declared war on Islamic zealotry long before jihadism became a global concern, even banned the Ottoman fez in favor of European-style hats. Turkish schoolbooks today summarize the changes he imposed as “the Atatürk revolutions.”

"Nevertheless, Mustafa Kemal’s staunchly secularist legacy is now being challenged by a new Turkish strongman, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Free at last to espouse and promote his conservative Muslim faith publicly, the prime minister embodies the political aspirations of millions of Turks who have been alienated from the military-backed secular establishment for generations: the rural folk, the urban poor, conservative Muslim clerics, and the rising religiously conservative business classes. While studiously avoiding direct confrontation with Atatürk’s Westernized ideals, Erdogan and other pro-Islamist leaders of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) have inaugurated an era of deep political transformation."
MORE READ:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/12/16/turkey-is-ataturk-dead-erdogan-islamism-replaces-kemalism.html

THE EVIL DUUMVIRATE:  EGYPT (grenn)  & TURKEY (orange)

EGYPT CHANGE:
+MOHAMMED MURSI
 The President of Egypt seeks to influence the drafting of a new constitution of Egypt. Morsi favors a constitution that protects civil rights, yet is enshrined in Islamic law.

+In a speech to supporters in Cairo's Tahrir Square on 30 June 2012, Morsi briefly mentioned that he would work to free Omar Abdel-Rahman, convicted in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City, along with the countless other Egyptians who were arrested during the revolution. A Brotherhood spokesperson later said that the extradition was for humanitarian reasons and that Morsi did not intend to overturn Abdel-Rahman's criminal convictions

+On 8 December 2012, Morsi annulled his decree which had expanded his presidential authority and removed judicial review of his decrees, an Islamist official said, but added that the effects of that declaration would stand. A constitutional referendum was still planned for 15 December. George Isaac of the Constitution Party said that Mursi’s declaration did not offer anything new, the National Salvation Front rejected it as an attempt save face, and the April 6 Movement and Gamal Fahmi of the Egyptian Journalists Syndicate said the new declaration failed to address the "fundamental" problem of the nature of the Assembly that was tasked with drafting the constitution
SOURCE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Mursi


+BROTHERHOOD: 'Yes' to Constitution

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood got the constitution it wanted, so it claims. After two controversial rounds of voting, the brotherhood unofficially declared a win, with 64 percent support, for the Islamic-backed constitution.
More Read:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/12/23/egyptian-brotherhood-constitution-passed.html
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02 NOSTRADAMUS WROTE:

WAR and then Turkey & Egypt they will change for worse

Century 5 - quatrain 25. Old French.
Le prince Arabe Mars, Sol, Venus, Lyon
Regne d'Eglise(1) par mer succombera:
Devers la Perse bien pres d'un million,
Bisance, Egypte ver. serp. invadera.(2)
 

Century 5 - quatrain 25. Possible English traslation.
The Arab Prince Mars, Sun, Venus, Lyon,
The Kingdom of the Church(1) will succumb by sea:
Towards Persia very nearly a million men,
The serpent will invade Byzantium and Egypt.(2)


INFO:
1+  KINGDOM OF THE CHURCH or Vatican City, in full State of the Vatican City, Italian Stato della Città del Vaticano , Is a ecclesiastical state, seat of the Roman Catholic church, and an enclave in Rome, situated on the west bank of the Tiber River. Vatican City is the world’s smallest fully independent nation-state. Its medieval and Renaissance walls form its boundaries except on the southeast at St. Peter’s Square (Piazza San Pietro).

+The Vatican palace is the residence of the pope within the city walls. The Holy See is the name given to the government of the Roman Catholic church, which is led by the pope as the bishop of Rome. As such, the Holy See’s authority extends over Catholics throughout the world. Since 1929 it has resided in Vatican City, which was established as an independent state to enable the pope to exercise his universal authority.
Source;
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/623972/Vatican-City


 +St. Pius X, at a hearing in 1909 the General Chapter of the Franciscans had known suddenly his vision, when he exclaimed: "It is terrible, the Pope will have to leave Rome, and passed over the dead bodies of his priests to leave the Vatican." Another version adds: "It will be hidden somewhere in disguise, and after a short retirement suffer a cruel death.".  
More Read;
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/islam-06-war-of-gods.html

+ 2  VER. SERP. Maybe two Latin words shortened "VERSUS SERPENS" which can mean "snake that has rebelled". In the Bible the serpent is often associated with the devil and the evil.


COMMENT
+ A leading Arab, Muslim, and military leader lead his army against the West.

+ The state of the Vatican will be conquered and the Pope will leave Rome as predicted by a former Pope (PIUS X ), several saints (as John Bosco) and advised by Nostradamus:

 Juan de Vatiguerro (Cistercian, XIII century, compiler of prophecies. this prophecy was attributed to S. Cesareo and published in the Mirabilis Liber, 1524) says that when Paris is destroyed the Pope will change of residence and the Catholic Church will be no defense for 25 months because no Pope in Rome and ruler in France. 
+The Mirabilis liber seems to have served as a major source for the prophecies of Nostradamus, and was placed on the Lisbon version of the Church's Index of Forbidden Books in 1581.
Source:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirabilis_Liber

Juan Roquetaillade ( Franciscan alchemist, born 1362) also predicted: "The Pope will have to flee their headquarters with his Cardinals, will benefit from a break where no one will recognize you, this affliction will surpass everything that has previously supported the Church".
More:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_Roquetaillade


+ This will be possible when Iran will be attacked and then Turkey and Egypt moved to the side of evil (by the serpent): THE DUUMVIRATE, Nostradamus wrote. (To be continue).

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  Common sources:

Wikipedia 
http://www.britannica.com/
http://www.theoi.com/
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php
 
Google Translate
 
http://www.nostradamusquatrains.com/index.html
http://4umi.com/nostradamus/
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And I also hope Obama visit Jerusalem again at Easter.

Goodbye from Spain.
 JSP.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHngF_b3NuE

ISLAM 06: THE WAR OF THE GODS

  The gods. the mortals and the words of Nostradamus.

There is no god but God,
 Muhammad is the messenger of God.

The flag of Saudi Arabia, displaying the shahadah. or Islamic profession of faith, is the declaration of faith in one God (Allah in Arabic) and the prophecy of Muhammad.

ISRAEL, GREECE, ITALY, FRANCE & SPAIN IN DANGER. END OF ISRAEL & JAPAN ?

" Leaders of Aries, Jupiter and Saturn
Eternal God what changes ! "                (C1-Q51)


THE BEGINNING

1- STRUGGLE BETWEEN RELIGIONS
 Who is the Messiah, Jesus Christ or Mohammed?

Century 5 - Quatrain 53. Old French:
La loy du Sol et Venus contendens
Appropiant l'esprit de prophetie:
Ne l'un ne l'autre ne seront entendus,
Par sol tiendra la loy du grand Messie.(1)


Century 5 - Quatrain 53. Possible English traslation:
The law of the Sun and of Venus in strife,
Appropriating the spirit of prophecy:
Neither the one nor the other will be understood,
By only law of the great Messiah will have.(1)


INFO
1+ MESSIAH , (from Hebrew mashiaḥ, “anointed”), in Judaism, the expected king of the Davidic line who would deliver Israel from foreign bondage and restore the glories of its golden age. The Greek New Testament’s translation of the term, christos, became the accepted Christian designation and title of Jesus of Nazareth, indicative of the principal character and function of his ministry. More loosely, the term messiah denotes any redeemer figure; and the adjective messianic is used in a broad sense to refer to beliefs or theories about an eschatological improvement of the state of humanity or the world.
SOURCE
 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/377146/messiah


THE MESSIAH & ISLAM
+ The Qur'an states that Jesus, the Son of Mary (Arabic: Isa ibn Maryum), is the Messiah and Prophet sent to the Children of Israel.[Quran 3:45] Muslims believe Jesus is alive in Heaven and will return to Earth to defeat the Masih ad-Dajjal (false Messiah), a figure similar to the Antichrist in Christianity, who will emerge shortly before him before Yawm al-Qiyāmah ("the Day of Resurrection"). After he has destroyed al-Dajjal, his final task will be to become leader of the Muslims. Isa will unify the Muslim Ummah (the followers of Islam) under the common purpose of worshipping Allah alone in pure Islam, thereby ending divisions and deviations by adherents. Mainstream Muslims believe that at that time Isa will dispel Christian and Jewish claims about him.
SOURCE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah
   
COMMENT
 + Christianity (Sun, Sunday or the lord s day) and Islam (Venus, friday, muslims) in combat .  
+ God's Word will be misinterpreted and denatured.
+ The true Messiah finally wins.



GENERAL INFORMATION

I do not believe in astrology so that these words mean :

+Sun = Sunday, The lord s day, Christendom, fame, Japan, power.+Jupiter, Jove, Thursday, Thanksgiving Day = USA, power or leader.
+Venus = Friday, Venus day, Muslims,Islam, peace or love.
+Saturn= Saturday, Sabbath, Israel, jews, wealth or cannibalism.
+Mars = War leader or  War.
+Neptune = Sea god = Sea or fleet (sea power). 
+Selin or Moon = In Greek mythology, Selene (Greek Σελήνη [selɛ̌ːnɛː] 'moon';) was an archaic lunar deity and the daughter of the Titans Hyperion and Theia. Her equivalent in ancient Roman religion and myth is Luna, Latin for "moon". 

SOURCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selene

& The Moon ..... or symbol of the Islam. "SELIN" He is the villain of the story.

+ The moon and star is a symbol often used on flags or buildings of Islamic countries. Where the religion originated the days are so hot that the people often moved by night. The stars led the way and the moon lit the way. This symbol is sometimes used to show how Islam guides and lights a Muslim's way through life.  (from: atschool.eduweb.co.uk)

+ Mercury = god of thieves, merchants and physicians = Economy and looting.
+ Aries = I searching.

+Is only for  mythological reasons. 

LOGO DISTURBED

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If you want more information you can consult a dictionary mythological:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php
http://pantheon.org/

 or this link on the day of thanksgiving and Jupiter:
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/us-jovialiste-nostradamus-word.html
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& THE NOSTRADAMUS WARNING
+Nostradamus was opposed to astrologers and fools and so we warned:

At the end of Century VI occur four Latin lines headed:

 +LEGIS CAUTIO CONTRA INEPTOS CRITICOS.

Qui legent hosce versus mature (or natura) censunto,
Profanum vulgus et inscium ne attrectato,
Omnesque Astrologi, Blenni, Barbari procul sunto.
Qui aliter facit, is rite sacer esto.


Translation possible:

+RULE OF CAUTION TO AVOID THE STUPID CRITICISM
 
Who read these verses meditate them seriously (or naturaly)
The profane and ignorant people not handle them
Any astrologers, fools, and savages stand off
Whoever does so according to the rules is honored



More about this quatrain latin:
 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus

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NOSTRADAMUS WROTE:

2- WHEN WILL IT HAPPEN? 
 Who will be the first to fall defeated?  ISRAEL

Century 5 - quatrain 24. Old French:
Le regne et loys souz Venus eslevé,
Saturne aura sus Jupiter empire
La loy et regne par le Soleil levé,
Par Saturnins endurera le pire.

Century 5 - quatrain 24. Possible English traslation:
The realm and law raised under Venus,
Saturn will have dominion over Jupiter:
The law and realm raised by the Sun,
By those of Saturn it will suffer the worst.
 
COMMENT
I guess the quatrain means this:

+ The kingdom and the laws under the influence of Muslims will grow. 
+ Israel will dominate the government of the United States and, then, the laws and under the influence kingdoms of our Lord, and especially the state of Israel, they will suffer the worst.
+ The growth of the Muslim side will cause the decline of Judeo-Christian side (and U.S.).
 
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3 -ISRAEL, USA & ..... IN DANGER
(and also France and Italy will suffer)
 
Century 1 - quatrain 51. Old French:
Chef d'Aries, Jupiter & Saturne,
Dieu éternel quelles mutations !
Puis par long siecle son maling temps retourne
Gaule et Italie, quelles esmotions? 


Century 1 - quatrain 51. Possible English traslation:
Leaders of Aries, Jupiter and Saturn
Eternal God what changes!
Then a long century bad times will return
Gaul and Italy, what emotions?

INFO:
 ARIES: I searching. 

JUPITER: U.S.
+ The day in which Americans give thanks to God is always on a Thursday: The day of thanksgiving and the day of Jupiter.  

 SATURN: ISRAEL
+ SATURN S DAY = SATURDAY = SHABBAT is the Jewish day of rest and seventh day of the week, on which they remember the traditional creation of the heavens and the earth in six days and the Exodus of the Hebrews, and look forward to a future Messianic Age. Shabbat observance entails refraining from work activities, often with great rigor, and engaging in restful activities to honor the day. The longstanding traditional Jewish position is that unbroken seventh-day Shabbat originated among the Jewish people, as their first and most sacred institution, though some suggest an obscure later, naturalistic origin.
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbat#Status_as_a_holy_day

COMMENT:
 + Horrible hundred years, a century in which the bad times will return again and again & particularly affected France and Italy will be.

LOGO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disturbed_%28band%29

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4 -U.S. BIRTH & FIGHT VERSUS ORIENT

Century 1 - quatrain 50. Old French:
De l'aquatique triplicité naistra,
D'un qui fera le jeudy pour sa feste:
Son bruit, loz, regne, sa puissance croistra,
Par terre & mer aux Oriens tempeste.

Century I - quatrain 50. Possible English traslation.
From the aquatic triplicity will be born,
one that will be on Thursday as his holiday
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
By land and sea, Oriens tempest.

COMMENT:
+ Remember:  
1rst Thursday is the day of Jupiter (Roman Mythology). 
2nd. The day in which Americans give thanks to God is always on a Thursday: The day of thanksgiving.

+ And since the time of the thirteen colonies, the United States always have spread to  the Orient: Indian Nations, Mexico, Hawai, Philipines, Japan, China, Corea, Vietnam .....and with the force of arms, increasingly powerful (Hiroshima & Nagasaki, for example).


 The quatrains related to jupiter and the U.S. are explained in this link
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/us-jovialiste-nostradamus-word.html

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 5 THE BEGINNING: 
THE WHOLE STORY IN ONE QUATRAIN
 Yes, Italy and France will suffer.

Century 5 - quatrain 25. Old French.
Le prince Arabe Mars, Sol, Venus, Lyon
Regne d'Eglise par mer succombera:
Devers la Perse bien pres d'un million,
Bisance, Egypte ver. serp. invadera.
 

Century 5 - quatrain 25. Possible English traslation.
The Arab Prince Mars, Sun, Venus, Lyon,
The Kingdom of the Church will succumb by sea:
Towards Persia very nearly a million men,
The serpent will invade Byzantium and Egypt.

COMMENT
+ A leading Arab, Muslim, and military leader lead his army against the West. The state of the Vatican will be conquered. This will be possible when Iran will be attacked and then Turkey and Egypt moved to the side of evil.

More read:
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-03-arabia-arabs-turkey-nostradamus.html

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6-ISRAEL AT WAR  
(Greece is affected in unexpected ways and more damage to the Latin countries. Italy, France, Spain .....)

 
Century 1 - quatrain 83. Old French:
 La gent estrange divisera butins,
Saturne en Mars son regard furieux:
Horrible estrange aux Tosquans & Latins,
Grecs, qui seront é frapper curieux.


Century I - quatrain 83. Possible English traslation.
The alien people will see the spoils.
Saturn his dreadful look will be in Mars.
Horrible and strange to the Tuscans and Latins
Greeks will be beaten in a curious way.

COMMENT:
+ As I have already explained before israel at war, looted by foreign troops, and these misfortunes come to Italy and other countries of Latin. And Greece into this mess will be stuck in an unexpected way.
   
MORE ABOUT THE GREECE FATE:
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/war-05-greece-islands-nostradamuspart.html

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ADDENDA December 26, 2012.
7 AMERICAN DEFEAT AT SEA (Neptune s  Kingdom)

 Century IV - Quatrain 33. Old French:
Jupiter joinct plus Venus qu'à la Lune,
Apparoissant de plenitude blanche:
Venus cachée souz la blancheur Neptune
De Mars frappée par la gravée branche.


 Century IV - Quatrain 33. possible English Traslation:

Jupiter joined more to Venus than to the Moon,
appearing in a white fullness.
Venus hidden under the whiteness of Neptune
struck by Mars by the engraved wand. 

INFO
+ Forget astrology, remember Mythology.

-If Venus is the goddess of love and Mars is the god of war.
-If Neptune is the god of the sea and the moon habitually represent Muslims. -If  Jupiter is U.S.A, then ......


Comment
- I guess that means  when U.S. bet for peace and love (Obama Nobel Peace Prize) , Muslims reach their maximum power, U.S. military fleet will be destroyed by war near Yemen.

More info about Jupiter & Jovialiste: 
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/us-jovialiste-nostradamus-word.html

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8- ENEMY LEADER MUSLIM DEAD BUT THE WAR CONTINUES


Century 1 - quatrain 94. Old French:
 Au port Selin le tyran mis à mort,
La liberté non pourtant recouvrée:
Le nouveau Mars par vindicte & remort,
Dame par force de frayeur honnorée. 


Century 1 - Quatrain 94. Possible English traslation:
On port Selin is killed the tyrant,
Not yet recovered freedom:
The new Mars by vengeance and remorse,
Lady is honoured through force of terror.

COMMENT:
+ Kill the Muslim leader in the capital will not help, because his successor will continue his work. 

+ The lady is THE DEATH.

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 9 ALL GOOD THINGS END UP SOMEDAY .

If the 3 Rock from the sun is the Earth .....  then the 7 Rock is Uranus.

Century 5 - quatrain 32. Old French:
Où tout bon est tout bien Soleil & Lune,
Est abondant sa ruine s 'approche:
Du ciel s 'aduance vaner ta fortune,
En mesme que la septieme roche.

Century 5 - quatrain 32. possible English Traslation:
Where all is good,  all benefice to the Sun and the Moon
Is abundant, its ruin approaches:
From the sky it advances to change your fortune.
In the same state as the seventh rock.



   
WHAT IS URANUS?
 + In ancient Greek myth, Uranus kicks off the beginning of life. In the Greek account of creation there was first a tremendous expanse of Chaos. From Chaos emerged two majestic manifestations in deific form: Gaea (Mother Terra) and Uranus (Father Sky). 

+ Uranus, as the myth conveys, was ever willing and fervent to partake in sexual pleasures with his mate, Gaea, however he was ill-prepared for the consequences. He was shocked (and somewhat appalled) with his progeny who he thought of as monstrous (giants, Cyclops's). 

+ Uranus (the god, the planet and symbol) sometimes lacks the forethought to analyze the implications of behavior and creative or sexual action.

SOURCE:
http://www.whats-your-sign.com/uranus-symbol.html


COMMENT
+ There is no virtuous circle. Everything ends someday. And the result of the forces involved in the creative process can be monstrous,

My inspiration.If the 3 Rock from the sun is the Earth .....  then the 7 Rock is Uranus.

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10 - SAGA AQUITAINE

BEFORE WAS NORMANDY (JUNE 1944) & NOW WILL BE AQUITAINE.
Bordeaux, The city will resist? (1)

A 
Century 2 - quatrain 1. Old French:
Vers Aquitaine par insults Britanniques,
De par eux mesmes grands incursions :
Pluies, gelées feront terroirs iniques,
Port Selyn fortes fera invasions.

Century 2 - Quatrain 1. Possible English traslation:
Towards Aquitaine by British islands
By these themselves great incursions
Frozen rain will make the soil useless,
To the fortifications of port Selin they will make invasions.


B
Century 5 - quatrain 34. Old French:
Du plus profond de l'occident Anglois.
Ou est le chef de l'isle Britannique:
Entrera classe dans Gyronde par Blois,(2)
Par vin & feux, cachez aux barriques.


Century 5 - Quatrain 34. Possible English traslation:
The deepest part of the west English.
Or is the head of the British isle:
Enter class in Gyronde by Blois,(2)
By wine and fires, hidden in the casks.

(1) AQUITAINE..... Burdeaux and Gironde.

C
Century 5 - quatrain 35. Old French:
Par cité franche de la grand mer Seline (3)
Qui porte encores a l'estomach la pierre,
Angloise classe viendra soubs la bruine
Un rameau prendre, du grand ouverte guerre.

Century 5 - Quatrain 35. Possible English traslation:
For the free city of the great Crescent sea (3)
Which still carries the stone in the stomach,
English fleet will come much under the drizzle
Take a branch, of the great open war.


D
Century 9 - Quatrain 6. Old French:
 
Par la Guyenne(4) infinité d' Anglais.
Occuperont par nom d'Anglaquitaine,
Du Languedoc(5) Ispalme(6) Bourdeloys,(3)
Qu'ils nommeront apres Barboxitaine.


Century 9 - Quatrain 6. possible English Traslation: 
An infinity of Englishmen in Guienne
Will settle under the name of Anglaquitaine: 
Of Languedoc(5) this victory(6) Bordelais,(3)
Which they will name after "Barboxitaine".(7)


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 E
Century 3 - Quatrain 83. Old French:
Les longs cheveux de la Gaule Celtique,(8)
Accompaignez d'estranges nations,
Mettront captif la gent aquitanique,
Pour succomber a internitions.
 
Century 3 - Quatrain 83. Possible English Traslation:
The long hairs of Celtic Gaul (8- The King of France-)
Accompanied by foreign nations,
They will make captive the people of Aquitaine,
For succumbing to their designs.
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End SAGA AQUITAINE.

GENERAL INFO:
 If you look at a map (1) of the area then you can imagine the relation between Aquitaine, Gironde & Bourdeaux (3) are like Normandie (1944), but Blois (2) and "The long hairs" (8) has another explanation related to the French Royal family :

2 +  The royal castle of Blois, is overlooking the city. In 1429 Joan of Arc used it as his base of operations for the battle of Orléans. In the sixteenth century during the Renaissance, was the favorite residence of the rulers of Francia. 

Louis XII "the Father of the People"

+ It became the favourite royal residence and the political capital of the kingdom under Charles' son, King Louis XII: In this castle King Louis XII was born in 1462.  In 1505, he signed the Treaty of Blois, ending the war with Italy.
 He was called "the Father of the People" (French: Le Père du Peuple).


+ En blood stained 1588 when Henry III assassinated Duke Henri de Guise and Catherine de Medici. In 1814 it was the place chosen by Marie Louise of Austria, wife of Napoleon I, as a venue to exercise regency.


SOURCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Blois
http://renaissance.mrugala.net/Renaissance%20en%20France/Renaissance%20en%20France.htm



4 GUIENNE or GUYENNE: The name Guyenne comes from the Occitan Guiana, which is itself a corruption of the word Aquitaine. However the words Aquitaine and Guyenne came to indicate different entities. The region of Guyenne also became confused with the region of Gascony until this took on a distinct identity in the 17th Century. From this time "Guyenne and Gascony" was a common term corresponding roughly to modern northern Aquitaine.

The coat of arms used for Guyenne is the same as for Aquitaine. WIKIPEDIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyenne

5+ LANGUEDOC:is a historical and cultural region encompassing the southern French départements of Hérault, Gard, and Ardèche and parts of Haute-Loire, Lozère, Tarn, Tarn-et-Garonne, Haute-Garonne, and Ariège and coextensive with the former province of Languedoc. 

the ultimate goal, go from Aquitaine to Languedoc & the Mediterranean

+ Languedoc is a centre of the distinctive civilization of the south of France. Its name is derived from the traditional language of southern France, in which the word oc means “yes,” in contrast to oïl, or oui, in northern French.

+ In antiquity was divided into an upper with capital in Toulouse and another with low capital in Montpellier. Bordered on the north by the historic Auvergne, on the east by the Rhone River that separates him from Provence, on the west by the Garonne and the Pyrenees and the south by the Roussillon and the Mediterranean Sea which has 200 kilometers of coastline. 

+ Now most of the territory is part of the administrative region of Languedoc-Roussillon, Languedoc although some sectors have been annexed by the French central government to other regions (Midi-Pyrenees, Rhone-Alpes, and the administrative region of Auvergne).

SOURCE 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/329904/Languedoc
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languedoc

6+ ISPALME: I guess they are two Latin words assembled IS + PALMA/AE and means "the victory" or "he who gains victory" because .... 

IS= demonstrative pronoun or adjective (IS EA ID)= That, this/He, she or it 
http://www.latin-dictionary.org/is_ea_id

PALMA/AE= Palm (hand), Palm (tropical tree), glory, prize, award of victory, salvation. In ancient times, a leaf or frond was carried or worn as a symbol of victory or triumph, or on feast days; hence figurative use of palm for "victory, triumph" (late 14c.).
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=palme&searchmode=none

7+ BARBOXITAINE: I suppose it is a nickname o byname originated by joining two latin words: "Bearded" or "barbarian" more Occitania (Barba/ae or Barbar/ic/us -a, -um and Occitania)



OCCITANIA  also sometimes "lo País d'Òc", ("the Oc Country"), is the historical region in southern Europe where Occitan was historically the main language spoken, and where it is sometimes still used, for the most part as a second language. This cultural area roughly encompasses the southern half of France, as well as Monaco and smaller parts of Italy (Occitan Valleys, Guardia Piemontese) and Spain (Aran Valley). Occitania has been recognized as a linguistic and cultural concept since the Middle Ages, but has never been a legal nor a political entity under this name, although the territory was united in Roman times as the Septem Provinciæ and the early Middle Ages (Aquitanica or the Visigothic Kingdom of Toulouse) before the French conquest started in the early 1200s.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occitania

OCCITANIA, from Aquitaine and Bordeaux to the Languedoc and the Mediterranean. It is the battlefield  of the victor of the Muslim enemy.

+ Thus BARBOXITAINE means: "The conqueror of the barbarians who invaded Occitania". 

8+  "Les longs cheveux de la Gaule Celtique" this phrase is related to the origin of French royalty: The Merovingians.

The Merovingian ruling family were sometimes referred to as the "long-haired kings" (Latin reges criniti) by contemporaries, as their long hair distinguished them among the Franks, who commonly cut their hair short.

The Frankish King Dagobert II, and the Merovingian dynasty from which he came, have been romantically mythologized in the annals of both local legend and modern mystical pseudo-history. The mystique that surrounds them includes attributions of saintliness, magical powers (derived from their long red hair), and even divine origin, stemming from their supposed descent from the one and only Jesus Christ.
Read more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty
http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/merovingian-twyman.htm



GENERAL COMMENT:
+ You must remember the Normandy landings to understand the landing of Aquitaine. I guess it happens in a similar way, again from England
 
+ Normandy Invasion, also called Operation Overlord, during World War II, the Allied invasion of western Europe, which was launched on June 6, 1944 (the most celebrated D-Day of the war), with the simultaneous landing of U.S., British, and Canadian forces on five separate beachheads in Normandy, France. By the end of August 1944 all of northern France was liberated, and the invading forces reorganized for the drive into Germany, where they would eventually meet with Soviet forces advancing from the east to bring an end to the Nazi Reich.

+ On this occasion he PURPOSE is to land troops in Aquitaine,  and then they will can reach the Mediterranean & the Languedoc.

Read more:
 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/418382/Normandy-Invasion

+ History will repeat. Fire to the enemy & Wine to the welcome party. From England in English ships and commanded by the King of France . The liberators arrive.

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11 -FINALLY,  END OF ISRAEL
(North Africa dominated by Muslims & Asia suffers a radical change)

Century 5 - quatrain 11. Old French:
Mer par solaires(2) seure(1) ne passera,
Ceux de Venus tiendront toute l'Affrique:
Leur regne plus Saturne n'occupera,
Et changera la part Asiatique.

Century 5 - Quatrain 11. Possible English traslation:
Sea will not be passed over safely(1) by those of the Sun,(2)
Those of Venus will hold all Africa:
Saturn will no longer occupy their realm,
And the Asiatic part will change.

INFO: 
1 + SEURE = SAFE  according the dictionary of the Norman or Old French language is the best translation:
https://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofnorm00kelhiala#page/220/mode/2up

2  + CHANGE:
I changed my opinion, 

SUNDAY = Christendom ,,,,, because the name "Sunday" comes from the Latin dies Dominicus ('day of the Lord'), due to the Christian celebration of the Resurrection of Jesus. In ancient Rome called this day dies solis ("day of the sun ').
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday. 

I thought that this quatrain is also concerned tothe destruction of Japan (rising Sun country) by the sea but after reading an old French dictionary I admit I was wrong. Are endangered the Christian fleets. 
(July 13, 2014)


COMMENT:
+  When Muslims controlled all of northern Africa, then Israel will cease to exist forever and will change Asia.  
What event can do that?  A World War, of course.


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12- THE KING EXPELS THE MUSLIMS OUT OF SPAIN

-Century X - Quatrain 95. Old French:

Dans les Espagnes viêdra Roy tres-puissant,
Par mer & terre subjugant or midy:
Ce mal sera, rabaissant le croissant,
Baisser les aesles à ceux du vendredy.

-Century X - Quatrain 95. Possible English traslation:

To the Spains will come a very powerful King,
By land and sea subjugating the South:
This evil will cause, lowering again the crescent,
Clipping the wings of those of Friday.

INFO & COMMENT

+ Friday congregational prayer has a special meaning for that character so beloved community by Islam. 

+ Victory over the invading Muslim armies. 

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13 ARABS EXPELLED OUTSIDE EUROPE.
THE VICTOR ORIGIN & FATE.

-Century 5 - Quatrain 74, old French:
De sang Troyen naistra cœur Germanique
Qui deuiendra en si haute puissance:
Hors chassera gent estrange Arabique
Tournant l'Eglise en pristine preeminence.
 
Century 5 - Quatrain 74, Possible english traslation:
Of Trojan blood will be born a Germanic heart
Who will rise to very high power:
He will drive out the foreign Arabic people
Returning the Church to its pristine pre-eminence.
 

INFO & COMMENT
+ Obviously, no explanation needed. One heir of the survivors of the destruction of Troy will have the courage and bravery to defeat the invaders Arabs or Muslims. 

+ The Merovingians were considered descendants of the Trojans, which led them to create Trojans named cities: Paris, Troyes ... and the use of many other Trojan source name. The heirs of the Merovingians are the House of Bourbons.

MORE INFO:
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-03-arabia-arabs-turkey-nostradamus.html

http://books.google.es/books?id=WbJNAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=illustrations+gaule+troye+francus&hl=es&sa=X&ei=PK67UOybOMW5hAfS84GAAw&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=illustrations%20gaule%20troye%20francus&f=false 


COMMENT:
+ It is obvious. BOURBON ROYAL Victory over the invading Muslim armies.

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  Common sources:

Wikipedia 
http://www.britannica.com/
http://www.theoi.com/
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php
 
Google Translate
 
http://www.nostradamusquatrains.com/index.html
http://4umi.com/nostradamus/
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Future addenda et corrigenda in PINK
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 SAGA ISLAM

1 MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS & NOSTRADAMUS
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-01-muhammad-muslims-nostradamus.html

2  ISHMAEL & NOSTRADAMUS

http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-02-ishmael-nostradamus.html

3 ARABIA, ARABS, TURKEY & NOSTRADAMUS
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-03-arabia-arabs-turkey-nostradamus.html

4 GRANADA, CORDOBA, BIN LADEN & NOSTRADAMUS
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-04-granada-cordoba-bin-laden.html

5 HANNIBAL VERSUS ROME
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/11/islam-05-hannibal-versus-rome.html

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  And I also hope Obama visit Jerusalem again at Easter.

Goodbye from Spain.
 JSP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6ButdWTL-M