ISLAM 05: HANNIBAL VERSUS ROME

Nostradamus recalls the glory of Carthage.

HANNIBAL PROMISSED DESTROY ROME
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+ Addenda:  AVIGNON CAPITAL OF THE KINGDOM OF FRANCE
Nov. 21, 2012.
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Hannibal was the greatest general Punic

+ The Roman historian Livy mentions that Hannibal's father forced his son to promise eternal hatred against the Romans.
http://www.history.com/topics/hannibal/videos#hamilcar-barca-and-the-punic-wars

 + Hannibal was a Punic Carthaginian military commander, generally considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father, Hamilcar Barca, was the leading Carthaginian commander and statesman (leader of the Barcid family) during the First Punic War. He may have been responsible for creating the strategy which his son Hannibal implemented in the Second Punic War to bring the Roman Republic close to defeat.

Political situation before the Second Punic War

  + One of his most famous achievements was at the outbreak of the Second Punic War, when he marched an army, which included war elephants, from Iberia over the Pyrenees and the Alps into northern Italy.

 + In his first few years in Italy, he won three dramatic victories—Trebia, Trasimene, and Cannae, in which he distinguished himself for his ability to determine his and his opponent's strengths and weaknesses, and to play the battle to his strengths and the enemy's weaknesses—and won over many allies of Rome. 
  

+ For more information on the Military Campaigns of Hannibal visit:

www.greatmilitarybattles.com
 

Military path of Anibal and his troops to Rome and back home.

Sources
http://www.livius.org/ha-hd/hannibal/hannibal.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal
http://www.mmdtkw.org/CNAf004MercenaryWarBarcidSpain.html

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NOSTRADAMUS WROTE ABOUT THIS:

1 - FROM IRAK TO ITALY (ROME)

Century 2 - Quatrain 30. Old French;
Un qui les dieux d'Annibal infernaux,
Fera renaistre, effrayeur des humains :
Oncq'plus d'horreur ne plus dire journaulx,
Qu'avint viendra par Babel(1) aux Romains.

Century 2 - Quatrain 30. Possible English traslation:
One who the infernal gods of Hannibal
Will cause to be reborn, terror of mankind
Never more horror nor worse of days
In the past than will come to the Romans through Babel(1).


INFO
1- BABEL: Modern day, Tower of Babel ruins is on the outskirts of ancient Babylon (current day Iraq).

MORE INFO:
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/03-war-beginning-iraq-invades-kuwait.html


Source
http://www.bibleprobe.com/babel.htm 
http://www.history.com/topics/hannibal/videos#hannibal-the-child-soldier

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2 - FROM ORIENT TO ISRAEL, SPAIN & FRANCE.

Century 2 - Quatrain 60. Old French;
La foy Punicque en Orient rompue
(1)Grang Jud, & Rosne Loyre, & Tag changeront,
Quand du mulet (2) la faim sera repue,
Classe espargie, sang & corps nageront.



 Century 2 - Quatrain 60. Possible English traslation:
The Punic faith in a broken  Orient,
(1) Greats Jordan, and Rhone, Loire, and Tagus will change:
When the hunger of the mule meat (2) will be satiated,
Fleet sprinkles, blood and bodies will swim.

INFO:
1 Rivers: Muslim troops reach these rivers of Israel, French and Spain.

2 Mules or Asses:  Symbol of the U.S. Democratic Party. Now run the country and be defeated militarily.



MORE INFO: 

About the Mule:
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/02/war-01-nostradamus-us-and-iran-formerly.html

About the rivers and the muslims:

Who made this map forgot the Rhone river, the river most mentioned by Nostradamus.

Century 5 - Quatrain 68. Old French:
Dans le Danube et du Rhin viendra boire
Le grand Chameau(1), ne s'en repentira:
Trembler du Rosne, et plus fort ceux de Loire
Et pres des Alpes coq le ruinera.


Century 5 - Quatrain 68.Possible English Traslation:
In the Danube and of the Rhine will come to drink
The great Camel(1), not repenting it:
Those of the Rhone to tremble, and much more so Those of the Loire,
and near the Alps the Cock will ruin him.

INFO: 
1- CAMEL: Camels have been used militarily, especially, for his ability to frighten horses, a quality famously used by Achaemenid Persians when fighting against Lydia. Moreover, the Persians used to use camels as trains to transport supplies weapons and equipment.  

Horses hate the smell of camels that are nearby, even becoming difficult to control.

COMMENT:
 The rivers are the front lines and Muslim troops suffer a decisive defeat near the Alps.

MORE READ:
 15+ Century III - Quatrain 99. Old French:
Aux champs herbeux d'Alein & du Varneigne,
Dumont Lebron proche de la Durance,
Camp des deux parts conflit sera si aigre,
Mesopotamie deffaillira en la France. 


Century IIi - Quatrain 99. Possible English Traslation:
In the grassy fields of Alleins & Vernègues,
Of the Lubéron range near the Durance,
The conflict will be very sharp for both armies,
Mesopotamia will fail in France. 

http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/04-kill-pope-3-nostradamus-wrote.html

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3 - HANNIBAL KEEPS HIS PROMISE.
Hannibal's father forced his son to promise eternal hatred against the Romans.

Century 1 - Quatrain 9. Old French;
De l'Orient viendra le cœur Punique
Fascher Hadrie(1) & les hoirs Romulides(2),
Acompagné de la classe Libycque,
Temples Mellites & proches isles vuides.

 Century 1 - Quatrain 9. Possible English traslation:
From the Orient will come the African heart
to trouble Hadrie(1) and the heirs of Romulus(2).
Accompanied by the African fleet
the temples of Malta and nearby islands to  be deserted.

INFO:
1 Hadrie:
+ Option A: Adria is a town and comune in the province of Rovigo in the Veneto region of Northern Italy, situated between the mouths of the rivers Adige and Po.
+ Option B:Atri (Greek: Ἀδρία or Ἀτρία; Latin: Adria, Atria, Hadria, or Hatria) is a comune in the Province of Teramo in the Abruzzo region of Italy. It has a population of over 11,500 (2001). Atri is the setting of the story The Bell of Atri.

2 Romulus: Romulus and Remus are the twin brothers and central characters of Rome's foundation myth.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atri,_Italy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remus

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4 - FROM GREECE TO ITALY

Century 2 - Quatrain 81. Old French;
 Par feu du ciel la cité presque aduste :
L'urne(1) menasse encor Deucalion(2) :
Vexée Sardaigne par la Punique fuste
Apres que Libra lairra son Phaëton.

 Century 2 - Quatrain 81. Possible English traslation:
Through fire from the sky the city almost burned:
The Urn(1) threatens Deucalion(2) yet
 Sardinia vexed by the Punic foist,  
(3) After Libra will leave her Phaethon.


INFO: 
1 -Urn: Perhaps "Democracy" or "People" but the interpretation depends on the use of the urn. Is a funeral urn?
 + Is the symbol of death? because one of the things Deucalion did was to repopulate the earth.

Read "Ode on a greecian urn" by John Keats
http://www.bartleby.com/101/625.html
http://www.sparknotes.com/poetry/keats/section4.rhtml

2  -Deucalion:In Greek mythology, Deucalion (Ancient Greek: Δευκαλίων) was a son of Prometheus; ancient sources name his mother as Clymene, Hesione, or Pronoia. 

+ Son of Prometheus who reigned in the regions near Phthia.
 
+ Phthia (Φθίη ancient Greek, ancient Phthíê, modern Fthíi) is an ancient region of Greece, in the south of Magnesia, on both sides of Mount Othrys. It was the home of the tribe of the Myrmidons, who participated in the Trojan War commanded by Achilles.

+ The anger of Zeus was ignited by the hubris of the Pelasgians, and he decided to put an end to the Bronze Age. Lycaon, the king of Arcadia, had sacrificed a boy to Zeus, who was appalled by this savage offering. Zeus loosed a deluge, so that the rivers ran in torrents and the sea flooded the coastal plain, engulfed the foothills with spray, and washed everything clean. 

+ Deucalion, with the aid of his father Prometheus, was saved from this deluge by building a chest (literally “chest” like the Bible's “ark,” which means “box”) Like his Biblical equivalent Noah and Mesopotamian counterpart Utnapishtim, he uses his chest to survive the deluge with his wife, Pyrrha.

Source:
http://www.authorama.com/old-greek-stories-6.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deucalion

3: I do not know yet but the story of Phaeton is very sad: He drives the chariot of the sun and does great harm to the land, and eventually dies.
 
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5 - FRENCH FLEET DEFEATED, ISLANDS CAPTURED.

Century 2 - Quatrain 78. Old French;
 Le grand Neptune du profond de la mer
De gent Punique & sang Gauloys meslé,
Les Isles à sang, pour le tardif ramer :
Plus luy nuira que l'occult mal celé.

 Century 2 - Quatrain 78. Possible English traslation:
The great Neptune of the deep of the sea
With Punic race and Gallic blood mixed.
The Isles bled, because of the tardy rowing:
More harm will it do him than the ill-concealed secret.

 COMMENT
In other  quatrains Nostradamus warns France of the destruction of its fleet
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 6 - AVIGNON CAPITAL OF FRANCE
--- (because there is no choice) ---

Century 3 - Quatrain 93. Old French;
 Dans Avignon tout le chef de l'empire
Fera arrest pour Paris desolé
Tricast(1) tiendra l'Annibalique ire,
Lyon par change sera mel consolé.

 Century 3 - Quatrain 93. Possible English traslation:
In Avignon the chief of the whole empire
Will make a stop because Paris is desolated
Tricast(1) will hold the anger of Hannibal:
Lyon will be poorly consoled for the change.

INFO:
1 Tricast: Perhaps Tricastin (Provenca, France) and Nuclear site.

+The Tricastin is an area around Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux in Provence, France. The name derives from the Gaulish tribe Tricastini, which was part of the confederation of the Cavares. The capital of the region, Saint-Paul was named Noviomagus before becoming Augusta Tricastinorum under Augustus's reign, and later Colonia Flavia Tricastinorum.

During Middle Ages, a confusion between Tricastini and Tria Castra (Three Castles) is responsible for the modern name of Trois Châteaux.

The only industrial site of its kind in Europe, Tricastin covers an area of 650 hectares across 3 districts, 2 departments and 2 regions. AREVA’s Tricastin facilities are part of the Front End business group. Areas of expertise include uranium conversion and enrichment and production of nuclear fuel assemblies.

French nuclear plants. Alarm in Tricastin site.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPnJ2dUzNSY&feature=related

COMMENT: 
Nuclear threat and Avignon will be the capital of France.


More:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricastin
http://www.areva.com/EN/operations-852/tricastin-nuclear-site-the-only-industrial-site-of-its-kind-in-europe.html
http://www.fortuneo.fr/fr/actualites/france/176642/declenchement-d-une-alarme-a-tricastin-des-employes-evacue.jsp
  
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Addenda et corrigenda Nov. 24, 2012. 
7- TUNIS & CARTHAGE:  The expulsion of the invaders

 Century 9 - quatrain 42. Old French:
De Barcellonne, de Gennes et Venise
De la Secille peste Monet unis:
Contre Barbare classe prendront la vise,
Barbare pulse bien loing jusqu'a Thunis.
  
Century 9 - quatrain 42. Possible english traslation:
From Barcelona, ​​from Genoa and Venice
From Sicily pestilence Monaco joined:
Against Barbarian fleet take their aim,
Barbarian expelled until way back as far as Tunisia (1).

INFO:
1- TUNISIA & the Hannibal s  homeland:

+ Ancient Carthage  was a Semitic civilization centered on the Phoenician city-state of Carthage, located in North Africa on the Gulf of Tunis, outside what is now Tunis, Tunisia.

Follow the arrow. And you can also see Cape Bon (perhaps BONI for Nostradamus)

+ For much of its history, Carthage was in a constant state of struggle with the Greeks on Sicily and the Roman Republic, which led to a series of armed conflicts known as the Greek-Punic Wars and Punic Wars. They also had to deal with the volatile Berbers, the indigenous inhabitants of the entire area where Carthage was built.

+ Hannibal's invasion of Italy in the Second Punic War culminated in the Carthaginian victory at Cannae and led to a serious threat to the continuation of Roman rule over Italy; however, Carthage emerged from the conflict weaker after Hannibal's defeat at the Battle of Zama in 202 BC. Following the Third Punic War, the city was destroyed by the Romans in 146 BC. However, the Romans refounded Carthage, which became the Empire's fourth most important city and the capital of the short-lived Vandal kingdom. It remained one of the most important Roman cities until the Muslim conquest when it was destroyed a second time in 698.


+ Now Carthage is a suburb of Tunis, Tunisia, with a population of 20,715 (2004 census), and was the centre of the Carthaginian Empire in antiquity. The city has existed for nearly 3,000 years, developing from a Phoenician colony of the 1st millennium BC into the capital of an ancient empire




 
COMMENT 
 + It is necessary to consider other quatrain related  with Tunisia. Remember,
Hannibal came to France via Spain.

Century I - Quatrain 73, old French:
France à cinq parts par neglect assaillie,
Tunys, Argiels esmeuz par Persiens:
Leon, Seuille, Barcelone faillie
N'aura la classe par les Venitiens.


-Century I - Quatrain 73, possible English traslation.
France to five side by neglect assaulted,
Tunis, Algiers revolted by Persians: 
 Leon, Seville , Barcelona fallen.  
 Will not have the fleet by the Venetians.

More read about this:
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-04-granada-cordoba-bin-laden.html


Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthaginian_Empire

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Addenda et corrigenda Nov. 21, 2012 : 
AVIGNON & THE KING OF FRANCE

COMMENT:
 Two quatrains are related to Avignon and The King:
 
 + It appears that he will be able to break five defenses (or walls) along the Rhone River and so it came to Avignon.

 

 + I guess the king after defeating Muslims in Lyon, then he will follow the river Rhone to the sea to destroy them as I explained earlier:
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/04-kill-pope-3-nostradamus-wrote.html

 15+ Century III - Quatrain 99. Old French:
Aux champs herbeux d'Alein & du Varneigne,
Dumont Lebron proche de la Durance,
Camp des deux parts conflit sera si aigre,
Mesopotamie deffaillira en la France. 


Century IIi - Quatrain 99. Possible English Traslation:
In the grassy fields of Alleins & Vernègues,
Of the Lubéron range near the Durance,
The conflict will be very sharp for both armies,
Mesopotamia will fail in France. 

Last Battle near Avignon. See Luberon & Durance river.

+ These are two quatrains difficult to understand but it is clear that the king will reign in Avignon.

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Century 8 - Quatrain 52. Old French;
Le roy de Bloys dans Avignon regner.
D'amboise et seme viendra le long de Lyndre:
Ongle a Poytiers sainctes aesles ruiner,
Devant Boni(5). 

Century 8 - Quatrain 52. Possible English traslation:
The king of Blois to reign in Avignon.
D'Amboise and Seme will come along the Lyndre:
Nail at Poitiers holy wings ruined,
In front  Cape Bon(5). (perhaps incomplete line)

2
Century 8 - Quatrain 38. Old French;
Le Roy de Bloys dans Avignon regner
Un autre fois le peuple en monopole
Dedans le Rhosne par murs fera baigner
Jusques a cinq le dernier pres de Nole (o Nolle, Nolie ....). 

 Century 8 - Quatrain 38. Possible English traslation:
The king of Blois to reign in Avignon
Once again the people is in a monopoly ( now monarchy again)
In the Rhone will do bathe walls
Five till the last one near Nole ( or Nolle, Nolie ....) .


INFO:
(5) BONI can be CAPE BON (Tunisia) near to Strait of Sicily

+ But Avignon will be the capital of France because there is no other choice?
+ What horrible things can happen in the rest of France?

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ONE EYE

MOVIE INFO: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053891/

 In the early Spring of 217, Hannibal left his winter quarter at Bologna, traversed the Apennines and ravaged Etruria (modern Tuscany). During a minor engagement, he lost an eye (although some historians claim that he suffered from opthalmia). 


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COMMENT

 + If you remember the story of Anibal you can easily understand what Nostradamus is explained using the history of the Roman Empire. It is Obvious.
  
HANNIBAL, THE RISE AND FALL (1 hour, 30 minutes)
http://punic-wars.purzuit.com/video/0VPkHytuyKQ.html


+ It's another way of telling the Muslim invasion of Europe.
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+ And now I expect Obama's visit to Jerusalem riding his "beast", as I already wrote over a year ago.  

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Soon I'll include nostradamus texts in which these words appear: vendredy, venus, Jeudy, Jupiter, Saturn  ...... related to the Muslim world.

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Common sources:
Wikipedia
http://www.history.com/#
Google Translate
http://www.nostradamusquatrains.com/index.html
http://4umi.com/nostradamus/
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SAGA ISLAM

1 MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS & NOSTRADAMUS
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-01-muhammad-muslims-nostradamus.html

2  ISHMAEL & NOSTRADAMUS
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-02-ishmael-nostradamus.html

3 ARABIA, ARABS, TURKEY & NOSTRADAMUS
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-03-arabia-arabs-turkey-nostradamus.html

4 GRANADA, CORDOBA, BIN LADEN & NOSTRADAMUS
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/islam-04-granada-cordoba-bin-laden.html

5 HANNIBAL VERSUS ROME



6 THE WAR OF THE GODS
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/islam-06-war-of-gods.html--------------------------------------------- 
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Goodbye From Spain.
JSP. 

Barcelona 16/11/2012.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kQR8ZkuVEE
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UPDATE

+ July 18, 2013.
Seeking a wise man .... in Barcelona 
"Carthage must be destroyed"
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2013/07/cato-man-of-barcelona.html
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