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lunes, 15 de julio de 2013

CATO & THE MAN OF BARCELONA

SEEKING A  SAGE  OF MY CITY OR PROVINCE
++ CARTAGO DELENDA EST ++
(English: "Carthage must be destroyed")

+ The phrase was most famously uttered frequently and persistently almost to the point of absurdity by the Roman senator CATO "the Elder" (234-149 BC), as a part of his speeches.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est


http://lonerwolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/diogenes-biography-outcast.png

NOSTRADAMUS WROTE ABOUT CATO

Centure 8 - Quatrain 26. Old French: (1)
De Caton (2) es trouvez en Barcellonne,
Mys descouvers lieu terrouers(3) et luyne (4),
Le grand qui tient ne tient voudra Pamplonne (5),
Par l'abbage de Monferrat bruyne (6).


Centure 8 - Quatrain 26.  My possible traslation (1)
Cato´s (2)  is  find in Barcelona
Put it is discovered, the site soils (3) and shine (4),
The great one who holds but does not hold want Pamplona,(5)
By abbage of Montserrat drizzle (6).


COMMENT, this means .....

The wise will be found in Barcelona (Catalonia).
That which has been hidden will be discovered, productive land and brighter.
Who has the power but not the legal right want Pamplona (Navarra).

Monserrat (Catalan people) will have their mind or their willingness confused


BARCELONA   CATALONIA   SPAIN
http://www.archdaily.com/151845/architecture-city-guide-barcelona/


NOTES

1-  The usual translation of this quatrain is this....... but i dont like:

*The bones of Cato found in Barcelona,  ("bone" instead of "es")
*Placed discovered the site found again and ruined ( "retrouvers & ruined" instead of "terrouers & luyne ")
*The great one who holds, but does not hold wants Pamplona.
*Drizzle at the abbey of Montserrat

Because i  prefer not to change the original text but i change "luyne" for "luire" (to shine)



2- CATO (3 options)

CATO THE ELDER      -DESTROY THE ENEMY-
+ He was a Roman statesman, commonly referred to as Censorius (the Censor), Sapiens (the Wise), Priscus (the Ancient), or Major, Cato the Elder, or Cato the Censor, (to distinguish him from his great-grandson, Cato the Younger) known for his conservatism and opposition to Hellenization. He later gave several vehement speeches which he frequently ended by saying "Carthago delenda est" ("Carthage Must be Destroyed"). And Carthage was destroyed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Elder
http://lexundria.com/plut_cat_ma/1-27/prr


CATO THE YOUNGER    -AGAINST THE TYRANNY-
+He was a politician and statesman in the late Roman Republic, and a follower of the Stoic philosophy. A noted orator, he is remembered for his stubbornness and tenacity (especially in his lengthy conflict with Julius Caesar), as well as his immunity to bribes, his moral integrity, and his famous distaste for the ubiquitous corruption of the period.

+ Death In Utica, Cato did not participate in the battle and, unwilling to live in a world led by Caesar and refusing even implicitly to grant Caesar the power to pardon him, he committed suicide in April 46 BC.  Reference to Cato as "Uticensis" is presumably meant to glorify him by portraying his suicide at Utica as a great victory over Caesar's tyranny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Younger
http://classics.mit.edu/Plutarch/cato_you.html


COGNOMEN CATO (by Plutarch)   - SAGE or WISE -
+"The Romans used to call men who had no family distinction, but were coming into public notice through their own achievements, “new men,” and such they called Cato. But he himself used to say that as far as office and distinction went, he was indeed new, but having regard to ancestral deeds of valour, he was oldest of the old. His third name was not Cato at first, but Priscus. Afterwards he got the surname of Cato for his great abilities. The Romans call a man who is wise and prudent, catus. "



3- TERROUERS : The reference to "terruer" concerns always the localized land OUTSIDE the urbane agglomeration and its horticultural vinicule crown. Designates the site of vineyards covered by the survey.
Fertile land ready for cultivation.

Read more:
+ ENGLISH http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2635638
+ FRENCH http://books.google.fr/books?id=MFowcbI6GWsC&pg=PA232&lpg=PA232&dq=%22terrouer%22&source=bl&ots=5yjNzXJQse&sig=pFoUKhmk8xqx2ZXVjM_PAXJ_zcA&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=PNOQUeLpIrCh7AbKtIDADg&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22terrouer%22&f=false



4- LUYNE: I prefer "luire" (shine). I change the letter "n" and it all makes sense.
 There is a village named "Luynes" in Provence:  http://www.aixenprovence.fr/Luynes



5-  PAMPLONA capital of both the province and the autonomous community of Navarra, northeastern Spain. it was founded in 75 bc by Julius Caesar’s rival Pompey (Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus) as a military settlement during his campaign against Quintus Sertorius, leader of a revolt against Rome. The city’s first name was Pompeiopolis or Pompaelo.
http://global.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/440512/Pamplona
Navarra en España / Pamplona en Navarra
Map of Spain.     http://www.unav.es/congresosefig/pamplona_navarra.html

NOW  Basque nationalist parties and the Basque terrorist group ETA want Navarra despite the fact that they do not have any legal right to appropriate this Spanish province and autonomous region.
http://global.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/193771/ETA

The Basque Country or Basque Autonomous Community was granted the status of nationality within Spain, attributed by the Spanish Constitution of 1978 to separate ethnic realities. The autonomous community is based on the Statute of Autonomy of the Basque Country, a foundational legal document providing the framework for the development of the Basque people on Spanish soil. Notwithstanding this spirit, the territory of Navarre was left out and made into a separate autonomous community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Country_%28autonomous_community%29



5- MONSERRAT  is a multi-peaked mountain located near the city of Barcelona, in Catalonia, Spain. It is part of the Catalan Pre-Coastal Range. The main peaks are Sant Jeroni (1,236 m), Montgrós (1,120 m) and Miranda de les Agulles (903 m). The mountain is the namesake for the Caribbean island of Montserrat.

+ A  Benedictine abbey is located on the mountain of Montserrat.

Montserrat, muntanya sagrada
By Rafel Sabater.   http://www.panoramio.com/photo/9030015


+ The monastery is Catalonia's most important religious retreat and groups of young people from Barcelona and all over Catalonia make overnight hikes at least once in their lives to watch the sunrise from the heights of Montserrat. Virgin of Montserrat (the black virgin), is Catalonia's favourite saint, and is located in the sanctuary of the Mare de Déu de Montserrat, next to the Benedictine monastery nestling in the towers and crags of the mountain.

+ The Spanish Civil War saw the violent suppression of the Abbey of Montserrat. Of the 278 priests and 583 religious men and women killed in Catalonia by Republican forces,  22 were monks of the Abbey of Montserrat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_de_Montserrat


NOW  in Catalonia autonomous government and several local political parties want the independence of Catalonia. The abbot of Monserrat is in favor of the independence of Catalonia forgetting the words of Jesus:
 
Jesus said, "give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God."

 http://thesweetrevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-detailed-chronology-in-progress.html


6- BRUINE or BRUYNE (6/10/2015)

"Bruine" means drizzle, misty rain, fine rain
"De Bruyne" is a Dutch surname meaning "the brown one"

FINAL EXPLANATION : A fertile soil needs a light rain to bear fruit (
this is the role of the abbot of Montserrat).

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Addenda et corrigenda in PINK
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POSTS RELATED
+ Prophecy of a nun about Navarra (Pamplona)  and Catalonia (Monserrat & Barcelona)
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/09/01-spain-vision-of-nun-bedridden.html

+ Nostradamus recalls the glory of Carthage.
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/11/islam-05-hannibal-versus-rome.html
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ajedrez-el-pensador-de-rodin
http://blogs.elespectador.com/contextus/2011/06/27/reflexion-la-crisis-etica-27-06-2011/ajedrez-el-pensador-de-rodin-3/

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Goodbye from Spain
JSP.

a. m. D. g.
Barcelona July 15, 2013


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7qax6kLqGs
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EPILOGUE
 

The encryptor need a decrypter.

GENESIS 41
 

15 Pharaoh said to Joseph, “I had a dream, and no one can interpret it. But I have heard it said of you that when you hear a dream you can interpret it.”

16
“I cannot do it,” Joseph replied to Pharaoh, “but God will give Pharaoh the answer he desires.”


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2041&version=NIV
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DEUTERONOMY chapter 18, verse 21-22.