WAR 01 - NOSTRADAMUS, THE U.S. AND IRAN (formerly Persia) ....AND FRANCE TOO!!

The map of the Persian Empire that Alexander the Great conquered : SEEKS and FINDS CARMANIA

 Is the world´s destinity is decided in Carmania?

+++The international political situation highlights a particular place in the world: THE STRAITS OF HORMUZ.... and i remembered 2 quatrains of Nostradamus related to that part of the planet earth, Iran (formerly Persia) for two words: CARMANIA and HYRCANIA.

Sassanid Persian Empire map: SEEKS and FINDS CARMANIA and HYRCANIA

---If you can locate its historic locations on a map you can see the great problem of the interpretation of those quatrains of Nostradamus: C-X, Q-31 and C-III, Q-90.

For more information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyrcania


The first quatrain is the following:

Century X - Quatrain 31

Le sainct Empire viendra en Germanie
Ismaelites truveront lieux ouverts
Anes voudront aussi la Carmanie
Les soustenans de terre tous couverts.

English version:

The Holy Empire will come into Germany
The Ishmaelites will find open places
The asses will want also Carmania
The supporters all covered by earth


 ---If you remember it was the Holy Roman Empire, Ishmael is the biblical father of the Arabs or Muslims, the donkey or ass is the symbol of U.S. Democratic Party, and where is Carmania ... is easy to assume what does the quatrain.


+The other quatrain is the following:


Century III - Quatrain 90

Le gran Satire et Tigre d´Hyrcania
Don presente a ceux de l´Occean
Un chef de classe istra de Carmanie
Qui prendra terre au Tyrren Phocean.

English version:

The great Satyr an Tiger of Hyrcania
Gift presented to those of the Occean
A fleet´s (or Army´s) chief will set out from Carmania
One who will take land to the tyrren Phocean
 

 ---If you know where are Carmania and Hyrcania,"Occean" you know that means NATO, the appearance of an old Satyr, the problem by a gift (trojan horse or the golden apple) and where is the Tyrrhenian Phocaea (Marseille, France, was founded by greek colonists from Phocaea in 600 BC.).. is easy to assume what does the quatrain.

MASSALIA = MARSEILLE (France).

+I think Nostradamus refers to the capital and provinces of Iran (Tehran) by mentioning Hyrcania and Carmania because:

---1) CARMANIA has the north coast of the Strait of Hormuz, was a Satrapy of the Persian an Seleucid Empires in the southern Persian Gulf (it is the provinces of Hormozgand and Kerman - Iran-).


---2) HYRCANIA  is between the Caspian Sea (to the old greeks the Caspian Sea was the "Hyrcanian Sea") and the Alborz Mountains (also  Elbourz or Alburz) to the south and southeast. TEHRAN is with the towering Alborz Mountains to its north and the central desert to the south.


....and what happens to the U.S. Fifth Fleet and his Arabs allies? 
Look Century III and quatrain 23:

Century III - Quatrain 23

Si France passe autre mer Lygustique.
Tu te verras en isles et mers enclos:
Mahommet contraire, plus mer Hadriatique.
Chevaux et Asnes tu rongeras les os. 

English Version:

If France you pass beyond the Ligurian sea.
You will see yourself shut up in islands and seas:
Mohamet contrary more so the Adriatic sea.
You  will gnaw the bones of horses and asses.
 
Note: "horse" is the symbol of the Arab people or Beduin because it is their favorite animal. 
Look: http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_horse


Note: "asses", ass or donkey is the symbol of the US Democratic Party. He represents the USA and its government.

US DEMOCRATIC PARTY SYMBOL_THE DONKEY OR ASS

My Opinion:

-When Germany will turn lead the European Union (Holy Roman Empire)
-The muslims reach their goals effortlessly (arab spring)
-U.S.A also will want to control Iran (Strait of Hormuz area)
-Those who support this will be defeated (Gallipoli / Dardanelles - WWI Scenario - again).

DARDANELLES WAR PLAN_WWI_1915

-The Bloodthirsty leaders of Iran 
-A "gift" will give the members of NATO
-A great military leader of Iran (Hormuz hero) and his army
-He will land his invading troops near Marseille (France).

-If France is envolved in the war will be defeated at sea, beyond its shores only awaits the danger. 
-Muslims will be his enemy after defeating the United States and pro-Western Arab governments.


+I speak of Gallipoli battle (1915) because it is the only scenario in which Iranian troops can win the American armies.

- Look in books about World War One, then they fought to control the Dardanelles Straits.

from Osprey Publishing Ltd.

-Also there is a film by Peter Weir:

The movie of Mel Gibson.

+Remember:

+IF YOU WANT TO CONTROL NAVIGATION THROUGH THE STRAITS YOU MUST CONTROL BOTH SIDES OF THE STRAITS.

+In 1915 they failed by sea & land:

THE DARDANELLES STRAIT: SEA ATTACK

And... Why do i have fear?

..... because i am Spanish and i live in Barcelona. Read the following quatrain 55 from V Century:

Century V - Quatrain 55

De la Felice  Arabie contrade.
Naistra puissant de la loy Mahométique.
Vexer l´Espagne conquester la Grenade.
Et plus par mer à la gent Ligustique.

English Version:

From the fortunate region of Arabia (Happy Arabia or Arabia Felix) .
Will be born one powerful in the laws of Mahomet .
To vex Spain to conquer Granada (Note: City in Spain). 
And also by sea to conquer the people of Liguria. 

Notes:

1  "felice Arabie" is the southwestern corner of the Arabian peninsula (the modern YEMEN and little more) for the romans, look Webster's New Geographical Dictionary, Springfield: Massachussets, 1972, página 63.

The term "Happy Arabia" is a translation of the Latin "Arabia felix." Felix means "happy, fortunate, blessed."

2  Liguria is a historical territory divided between France and Italy (the coast from Marseille to Genoa). 

Marseille-Barcelona-Lyon_Ligurian&TyrrhenianSea

.... and also read the Century III and Quatrain 88:

Century III - Quatrain 88

De Barcelonne par mer si grande armée.
Tout Marseille de frayeur tremblera.
Isles saisies, de mer ayde fermée.
Ton traditeur en terre nagera. 

English Version:

From Barcelona a very great army by sea.
All Marseille will tremble with terror.
Isles seized help shut off by sea.
Your traitor will swin on land.  

The future of Barcelona?

+It is a problem of geography, Greco-Latin culture, and military strategy expressed in the language of sixteenth-century French.


... and there are many more things and worst about Marseille and Barcelona.

... and Obama returns to Jerusalem (from Jeane Dixon´s dream).

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ADDENDA january 1, 2013

THE COUNTDOWN
  
+ Cold War between Iran, Israel heating up (FOX NEWS dec. 31, 2912)
 http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/happening-now/index.html#/v/2064802065001/cold-war-between-iran-israel-heating-up/?playlist_id=86919
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GOODBYE
JSP

To be continued:
 
2nd part

http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/us-jovialiste-nostradamus-word.html

3rd part
http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/03-war-beginning-iraq-invades-kuwait.html
4th part  

http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/03-us-afganistan-nostradamus-verdict.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHRd0R-uKHc&feature=related

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++ AND .... WHO KILLED MCCORMICK?. ( Part two ) - A theory - End..

                                                        Too close to the highway 367

---I hope at least someone has read "The Gold Bug" and "Tom Sawyer, Detective" rather than a bureaucrat of some library ban Mark Twain and E. A. Poe by racist and nothing more....

The Solution:

A)---If you watch the video of "wusa9.com" about Mccormick´s case, you can see that the place where the corpse was found is too near the highway 367, a dirt road, and leaves the body visible to everyone at the corner of a cultivated field.

A body too visible to anyone.

++This means that the body was left for the sole purpose to get rid of it quickly and without bothering to hide it because is a stranger to him. What is done to see him never more.


B)---If you look the Mccormick´s notes you can see that are different, too different, the first text is clean and looks good compared to the second note also that is dirty.

++ This means that Note one is final note 
++ The Note 2 is a note unfinished, an interim note,a typical entry when you doing  a job and want to save some date (to write  after the official or final text), nothing more.

C)---The stain of note 2 which makes it difficult to read the text.

++ This means the stain has the size and is in the place where anyone could put the hand to write. Mccormick was conducting some manual and dirty work before writing the second note. Something he will not do never more.

D)---Mccormick  buried in Marais Temps Clair CA. (mo) a suitcase with $  99.840 and something else.

++The shovel of E. A. Poe and the little screwdriver of Mark Twain are necessary to hide something . Who wants to steal a garden spade?. This means that someone took the shovel accidentally , nothing more.

E)---And the medication, food, water and others items needed when you make a short trip? Where are these things?

++This  means they are in a bag or backpack. Who would steal these things?. Again no one would ever steal, never. This is an unexpected subtraction , nothing more.

F)---Mccormick had no car or motorcycle and were not found near him.

++This means that strange took him in his car, nothing more.

G)---The notes were in her clothes.

++This means that someone does not look in the clothes. He did not know its existence and neither was interesed in the notes; never before, never after and never more.

H)---Why kill?.

++Is it really necessary to kill someone who is sick of heart and lungs?. Revenge?
--Almost 5 years served his sentence it is too later.
Steal? 
--Steal what? 
Mccormick has no identifiable enemy, none and none more.

I)---To get from St. Louis (mo) to Marais Temps Clair CA. (mo) by way of the north has to pass througth the highway 367.


---So...who could kill Mccormick is: NOBODY.
(Whoever wants to know the details of his death should ask who picked to hitchhiker).



---THIS IS WHAT I THINK HAPPENED:


+++Mccormick went to Marais Temps Clair CA. (mo) to bury a bag o suitcase  and was wearing everything  necessary in another bag  or backpack (medication, food, water, garden spade...). He dug  a hole despite his illness and his hands dirty wrote the note 2, the most important note for their latest details ans specifications. Note 1 contains a general description  of the chosen site and its autobiography (very similar to that made Confucius) something that can be done at home. 

+++The note 2 is unfinished and ugly because he failed to return home to finished as the other. He covered  the hole and when he finished he came home with a backpack but he had no car.... and decided to be a hitchhiker.

+++Someone decided to pick up  a hitchhiker  who seemed tired, and left his backpack on the back of the vehicle, but something  went wrong on the way back to St. Louis (mo). Mccormick died and the driver, terrified, turned  back and looked  for a place to put  the corpse out immediately.


+++He left  the highway 367 and quickly turned. He threw the body but forgot to throw the Mccormick´s bag and thougt the nightmare was over for ever and ever .... nothing more.






THE PROFILE:


+++The driver is a man, african-american, 35 or 60 years old, manual worker, lived in St. Louis (mo), and may be work in Augusta Ava, religious but  has had  legal problems before.


+++He may have a traffic ticked for that day or by going drunk and his name may be in the police departament in St. Louis (mo).


+++From that day he did not want  more hitchhikers in his car  and is something that prevents. He  has become more secretive and, perhaps, has become more religious or alcoholic. If you publish this profile maybe someone (first in the family) would recognize the person.


END: 

+++ This is the easiest solution. And if i am wrong this is a good argument for "Castle", "The Mentalist" or "CSI". I can not do anything else from my room in Barcelona ( Spain, Europe).


+++I hope everything is clear before Obama visit again Jerusalem riding on his beast ... nothing more.




END 2011 
-HAPPY NEW YEAR_2012-
JSP.


(This is not bad for someone who does not know English. Bye).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmTI5He4bFE

++ AND .... WHO KILLED MCCORMICK?. ( Part one ) - A Theory.

Advice:

--- It is usual: Perhaps the St. Louis PD and the FBI hides some information. So my opinion is only a theory until if reveals something new ( if there is anything new, of course ).

-----------------------UPDATE-JULY 2012------------------------------

++ It appears that the FBI and local police lied to the family of McCormick:

Look: 

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/content/printVersion/1609667/

or:  

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2012-06-14/news/ricky-mccormick-code-mysterious-death-st-louis/

 McCormick's mother, Frankie Sparks, says:

 "They told us the only thing in his pockets was the emergency - room ticket,"

 "Now, twelve years later, they come back with this chicken-scratch shit."

-In the links I mentioned above can read the full story.

 

-It seems that everyone thought that Ricky was a idiot and the family was misled or not informed of police/FBI  investigations. 

-These guys from the FBI ...... trying to trick a sweet and helpless old lady.

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---It is unusual but necessary to understand the sequence of events:
 + The note 2 is dirty.
 + The notes are still inside their clothes. 
 + You can not explain his dead. No evidence.
.... but this may be related to each other. 

Start:

--- .... And old map to an old case:

+ The map of St. Louis (mo) that accompanies this page is not current but it can be used to get on idea of the situation of the rivers, the county of St. Charles, West Alton, and the place where the deceased was found: North of St. Louis (mo), a triangle between highway 367 (look 67), Spanish Lake and the railway line CB-Q.

+ Mccormick had a St. Louis (mo) an official/legal address: 1400 Chouteau Avenue, near the center of the City and the Mississippi River.

+ MARAIS TEMPS CLAIR CA. (mo) is a blue spot beneath "Portage des Sioux" in the northwest corner of the map (between railway line CB-Q and roads ).


INTRODUCTION

---I always thought it strange the place where she / he found the corpse of Mccormick. It was the weirdest place to put down and hide a body. My knowledge of the area down to my reading of the works  of Mark Twain, the person who best knew the Mississippi River and its tributaries like the Missouri River, in particular his travel books:

--"Life on the Mississippi"--

--"Old times on the Mississippi"--

--"Roughing it"-- 

......and the novels of Tom Sawyer ( among others ).

---A river is one of the best places to get rid a body. The river moves objects, rot, destroys and change the land with the force of the flood. And usually ends up the dead from somewhere flooting in the river. The evidences are usually erased by the water and we see quite decomposed corpse.

---But Mccormick was found next to the highway 367 and a dirt road, was at first sight, and at the corner of a cornfield. Nobody knows who killed him and how. The FBI is determinated to say "it is a murder case" but will not say why. The medical examiner of St. Charles County was not able to find something to justify the death of Mccormick.

-Mccormick who was identified by his finger prints, suffered from chronic heart and lung problems. 

-It remains a puzzle why he might have decided one day to visit and agricultural area.


+ I decided to review the information avalable at:

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/144579/77/Break-A-Code-Solve-A-Murder

http://www.austinstar.hubpages.com/hub/Cryptographic-Clues

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6297414&postcount=545

http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_bcc02074-5b1a-11e0-b199-0017a4a78c22.html

 ---...and the result is as follows:



THE THEORY:

---The most likely solution Mccormick´s death and case (the notes and the code that FBI does not understand) is given as follows:

1)- On Friday Mccormick went to the doctor for further treatment. He was ill for a long time. He suffered a cardiovascular disease and received a certain amount of money for it. He was lost seen alive late in the afternoon of june 25 at Forest Park Hospital in St. Louis (mo).

2)- I guess on Monday went to MARAIS TEMPS CLAIR CA. (mo) to bury a suitcase.

3)- On Wednesday his body was found in on advanced state of decomposition and their clothes had two notes.

4)- The dead body was left near the highway 367 and in plain view at the corner of a cultivated field.

5)- Mccormick did not own a car or motorcycle and the area is not served by buses or trains.

6)- Living on and off with his elderly mother and spending much of his time on the street. 

7)- The note 2 is dirty and unsightly compared with the note 1, and the difference opens another very important path:


8)- Mccormick´s family members said he had used similar code as a secret language since his childhood and that none of his relatives knew  how to decipher.


9)- In addition to a few misdemeanor offenses, he had been convicted of statutory rape and served about 11 months of a three-year prison sentence ( sentence date 11/ august /93 ).


+ These figures inspire me these questions:

-Where is the medication?
-Where is the vehicle?
-Where is the garden spade or military spade?

-Where is the backpack or knapsack to carry the usual items on a short trip?
-Why continues the notes on the clothes?
-The note 2 is so because it is an interim note. Why?
-Why in note 2 there is a big spot?


+ In my humble opinion the answer is found in "Tom Sawyer Detective" a novel by Mark Twain that made me reflect on:


-The importance of the presence or abscence of a small screwdriver.
-The question of Blacksmith: Why kill?
-The ignorance of Jupiter Dunlap.


---( I recommend reading the novel based on real criminal fact happened in Europe before someone decides to ban or rewrite the book of Mark Twain to be a "dangerous racist propaganda" to children´s minds ).

Is a good thing and thought, i think.

+ And the murderer is ..... look part two.


http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/and-who-killed-mccormick-part-2-end.html



To be Continued .
JSP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mlt9ABjyM8&feature=related

TO FBI: 6 POSSIBLE SOLUTION OF MCCORMICK´S NOTES (Chapter 6): END

---Ricky Mccormick´s THE TREASURE MAP 

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+ The POE´s last problem: The Jupiter´s mistake



----"Begin at the beggining and end when you reach the end then you stop, of course."

Lewis Carroll (1832 -1898). English writer.

There is a map error, the error of Jupiter. Do you can see?
 
Exactly, 651 steps is a much shorter distance. 
Let us get started.
(thanks to Gary Williams from Missouri -June 2012-).

Bye from Spain

Addenda et corrigenda (January 2012)

+Some people think it is a wet ground, but if you look on the official map, i guess the bag is buried in the central zone that has a little dry area (pool 6, north):                                                                    

http://extra.mdc.mo.gov/documents/area_brochures/7902map.pdf

Addenda et corrigenda (april 29, 2012)

-Explanation: 

+The photo is a treasure map.

+ Mccormick´s stenographyc  notes tell us how we can find 99.840 dollars and more hidden in a suitcase buried in the Marais Temps Clair conservation Area (MO).

+ The northern entrance to this place  is 36 and 29 miles from Chouteau Avenue 1400, St. Louis, Missouri, the official residence of Mccormick, and next to the northern entrance of Marais ... there is a house with the number 35 for some reason.

+ This is the meaning of the first line of note 1 (MRS = MaRaiS) and note 2 numbers:

35 GL= 35 HoMe
36 m = 36 miles
29 KE= 29 keep (miles)
74 SPRK= 1974 is quit rail (Missouri railroad event)
99.84. S 2u= 99.840 $ to you
651 mt= 651 meter (measure by steps)
1/2 munDPLSE= Half yours and the please.

+ Can anyone tell me if the house next to the conservation area has really the number 35?

Addenda et corrigenda (June 2012):  

I have found the house number 35 where I had calculated: 

 6035,Missouri 94,Portage Des Sioux,MO 63373 EEUU. Look:

 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/04/to-fbi-8-possible-solution-of.html

 + And now, where we have 651 steps up to the curve and to find the hidden suitcase? Look:

Two crossings of roads, a curve and 651 steps from the northern entrance to Marais

 + This is my second choice if one step is equivalent to 76.02 ccentimeters. Is the pool area 9 of Marais ....and I continued looking for a hole, trench or Shed (like a pit of Birdwatching, perhaps).

ADDENDA---------------------JULY- 27- 2012----------------------------

MORE INFO:

 
+ It appears that McCormick worked at a gas station in 1601 Chouteau Avenue, owned by a family connected with the world of crime. 

+ At a gas station there are maps of the city, county and state of Missouri, this fact would explain how he could know the distance between St. Louis and Marais. See:

“Code Dead: Do the encrypted writings of Ricky McCormick hold the key to his mysterious death?” By Christopher Tritto (published: June 14, 2012)

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/content/printVersion/1609667/

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2012-06-14/news/ricky-mccormick-code-mysterious-death-st-louis/

 + And also would explain errors. It is necessary to note that the search must be conducted according to the physical and temporal conditions of 1999 in Missouri.

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 Addenda & Corrigenda 24 april 2013

Third attempt

Gary wrote:

 "I noted the address on the mailbox of that house across the street from the entrance and it isn't 6035,...it's 6211...you could probably see that for yourself using google maps when you position the street view there."

More info  here:

http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2013/04/mccormick-another-treasure-map.html

Another possibility;

+ There is another entrance to the park. 

+ If the southern entrance to the park is 35 miles from the residence of mccormick...... 

 look at the map: 

 Marais Temps Clair Conservation Area

5134 Island Road St. Charles, MO 63301

.... and perhaps "35 GLE" is "35 6LE",  "35 HOME" or  "35 SAME (way to go)"

 This is a change from the starting point but the original idea remains.

The truth is outside of St. Louis.  Entrance?  
North or southeast entrance?

 

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BYE FROM SPAIN

JSP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ31jQjNpQc

NOSTRADAMUS AND THE RUINOUS ECONOMY. part one.

THE RUIN OF THE WORLD

(AND ESPECIALLY OF ITALY).
(Part one).

-----"The public treasury emptied by land and sea". This phrase was written by Nostradamus 500 years a go and if we can write the whole quatrain placing it in a specific space and time. Quatrain number 15 of the 2nd Century and is wrote:

C II - Q 15, Old French:

"Un peu devant monarque trucidé.
Castor Pollux en nef, astre crinite:
L´erain public par terre et mer vuidé.
Pise, Ast, Ferrare, Turin terre interdite". 

C II - Q 15, Possible english version:

"Just before King killed.
Castor and Pollux in ship,comet.
The public treasury emptied by land and sea.
Pisa, Asti, Ferrara forbidden land".



-----Let is start at the beginning and sentence by sentence:


-1rst-
"Un peu devant monarque trucidé". 
"Just before King killed".


      ++King Faisal of Saudi Arabia was assassinated by one of his nephews the march 25, 1975, at a meeting of public policy. The murderer was considerer insane but was judged by regicide, and sentenced to death. He was beheaded in a public square in the capital Riyadh, a few months later, in June. The regicide motive was revenge, they say.


-2nd-
"Castor Pollux en nef, astre crinite".
"Castor & Pollux in ship, comet".


     ++This phrase is often associated with Popes Jhon Paul I and Jhon Paul II that took place on the throne of St. Peter, a fisher of men, immediately. The use of "ship" as symbol of the Church is very old but we can see developed in a historical film entitled "BECKETT" starring Peter O´Toole in the role of King, and Richard Burton in the role of friend king and Archbishop of Canterbury; and Castor and Pollux is an analogy based on Greek mithology.

 Becket Trailer:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ0LadfyF1E

-----Castor and Pollux were siblings from different fathers, Castor was mortal and the second, son of Jupiter, was immortal. Pollux was very fond of his brother. When Castor died in a fight Pollux begged his father back to life Castor but Jupiter could not do it and opted for a solution a little cruel: He consented that Castor as long as he lived on earth Pollux could dwell in the abode of the dead, thus alternately lived and died. Some years later, Jupiter moved by mutual love for each other, placed between the stars where under the name of the Twins are two constellations, one of which dissapears when one is born, so never found together on the horizon.

-----So we have King Faisal was murdered in 1975, shortly after John Paul I  died in 1978 and was immediately replaced by John Paul II who died in 2005, and in between something spectacular: A planetary collision, the comet SL-9 crashes into the planet Jupiter in July 1994.

-----The SL-9 is the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 fragments impact divided into Jupiter´s atmosfere in 1994. This unique event was very popular, many observatories conducted intensive observation campaigns that incluided the Hubble space observatory and the Galileo probe that obteined good images that the media broadcast. Even Robert Smith, a member of British band THE CURE wrote the song JUPITER CRASH, part of the group´s album WILD MOOD SWINGS.



-3rd-
"L´erain public par terre et mer vuidé".
"The public treasury emptied by land and sea".


      ++"L´Erain" is the treasury of a city, province or state; or also all assets, income and taxes it collects a local, provincial or state. The words ofthe quatrain indicates excessive and irresponsible spending of state assets, like what happends today in Iceland, Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain, U.S. and others required, or spends less and collect more detrimental to its citizens cheated by their leaders. The only one who is in a jail is one such Madoff, private con, man who gets beaten from time to time and has lost one of this sons, an employee, who has commited suicide recently.



-4th-
"Pise, Ast, Ferrare, Turin terre interdite". 
"Pisa, Asti, Ferrara, Turin forbidden land".

     
 ++I do know when or how Pisa, Asti, Ferrara and Turin are convicted, their fate is tragic for natural, industrial or political catastrophe (war o revolution) and will shortly. Prepare your business and go away from these cities, areas or Italy.

-----And that there are far worse quatrains with references to Italy and the quatrain number 65 of Century X which reads;


C X - Q 65, Old French.

"O vaste Rome ta ruine s´approche
Non de tes murs de ton sang et substance:
L´aspre par lettres fera si horrible coche.
Fer pointu mis à tous jusqu´au manche".

CX - Q 65, English Version:

"O vast Rome thy ruin approaches.
Not your walls but rather of your blood.
The rough of letters will make a horrible mark.
He will get pointed iron to the hilt".

note: "cocher" is a transitive verb, principal translation "put or make a mark". In US use "to Check" and in UK use  "to Tick"(from wordreference.com). 


-----It is not "The Sack of Rome" 
.... is a lot worse and this could have prevented but nobody did. 


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Addenda november 17, 2012,
 
Or not:
 A swiss central banker to see euro crisis like Nostradamus?

 http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-eurozone-crisis-swiss-idUSTRE8161GJ20120207
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TO BE CONTINUE

PART TWO, LooK:
 http://prophecyexperimentalzone.blogspot.com.es/2012/07/nostradamus-ruinous-economy-part-two.html

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Common sources:
Wikipedia 
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php
Google Translate
http://www.nostradamusquatrains.com/index.html
http://4umi.com/nostradamus/
 
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BYE FROM SPAIN
JSP.

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-Addenda et corrigenda- February 2012.

+ The Sack of Rome happened in May / 6 - 9 / 1527.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(1527) 

+Nostradamus published his Centuries and Prophecies in:
-- 1555, in Lyon, by Macé Bonhomme
-- 1557-8, in Lyon, by Antoine du Rosne.
-- 1560, in Paris, by Barbe Régnault..... etc.

+Nostradamus died in july 1, 1566.

For more Information:

http://www.skepdic.com/nostrada.html http://www.myetymology.com/encyclopedia/Nostradamus.html

http://www.nostradamus.org/ 

http://yowusa.com/nostradamus/index.shtml

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05/march/2012:
-Begins the trial of former Prime Minister of Iceland by the economic ruin of their country.

23/april/2012: 
The former Prime Minister of Iceland is found innocent ..... naturally. 
+ It seems that nobody is guilty (but Leman Brothers and Maddof). 
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September 2012
 http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2012/09/19/bill-oreilly-mitt-romney-truth-and-folks#ixzz26xduVRrr
 Mr. Romney said that back in May at a fundraiser in Florida

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November 2012: Another suicide related to the Madoff case
 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/16/son-madoff-longtime-accountant-reportedly-commits-suicide/?test=latestnews

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